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12-05-20, 05:05 PM | #1 |
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...and I can confirm that regular catapult ship can be cloned to AC and it may launch airplane, outside of 3D rendering area of course... We dont have in SH5 appropriate plane type for this purpose though.
EDIT: This plane I mean...
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12-05-20, 07:55 PM | #2 | |
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EDIT: Walrus on CAM ship is set as equipment (from Flieger.dat file), replacing it with Hurricane would just require cloning Flieger.dat and replacing model in cloned file. EDIT 2: Catapult would require changing too if we are to be 101% correct, it was copied from a warship model apparently and is correct for float planes, but Hurricane-launching CAM ships didn't have a crane attached to their catapults (there's no point as you wouldn't be able to reuse ditched Hurricane anyway) Last edited by kapuhy; 12-06-20 at 07:00 AM. |
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12-06-20, 09:05 AM | #3 | |
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If I can add something, I think that being requisitioned/MoWT vessels, MAC ships would have been painted overall gray. I am sorry to say that because I like more black hulled ships, but in this case I am afraid that the black paint is totally out of place... One more note: if set in game as escort carriers, CAM ships will fly the white ensign. Nonetheless the red ensign would be more adequate for them, as in reality they were commanded by a civil shipmaster*. I think that a switch of flag can be done by changing the flg node into an eqp node, and by specifying the red ensign in ship's .eqp file. _________ * There was another class of catapult-armed ships designed collectively as 'Pagasus-class' which, similar to CAM ships, could launch an Hurricane or a Fulmar but - unlike CAM ships - they were manned by military crew and officers. For this class, composed of only five vessels, the RN ensign would be okay. |
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You are right! Thank you! I was too lazy last night to go trough the museum...
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The only minor issue would be CAM and MAC ships flying the naval ensign rather than the merchant one, but in my previous post I already suggested an easy workaround to "force" them using the red ensign. |
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12-06-20, 12:07 PM | #6 | ||
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I like this whole concept of actually functional catapult ships, this wasn't the case in any previous SH title to the best of my knowledge... I'll think about it for some future Wolves updates...
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12-06-20, 01:01 PM | #7 | |
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Anyway, after your suggestion, I will be adding "filler" air groups to fill the possible intervals between an "active" air group and the next one. These air groups will do nothing but spawning one (or whatever is the minimum safe number) unarmed and short-ranged aircraft. Filler groups will also be used at the beginning and/or at the end of the whole air group sequence, in case a base is not active since day one and/or until the last day of the campaign that it will be used on. To keep on with my previous example, after the aforementione changes the cfg file looks like this: Code:
[Unit] ClassName=RAFNortholt ;-50087.640000 6186482.280000 3DModelFileName=data/Land/LAB_LargeAirBaseGB/LAB_LargeAirBaseGB UnitType=406 MaxSpeed=0.000000 MinSpeed=0.000000 Length=1 Width=1 [AirGroup 1] StartDate=19390801 EndDate=19400617 Squadron1Class=Trainer Squadron1No=1 [AirGroup 2] StartDate=19400618 EndDate=19400622 Squadron1Class=FHurricaneMkI ;No. 1 Sqn. RAF (fighter squadron, No. 11 Group - Battle of Britain) Squadron1No=5 [AirGroup 3] StartDate=19400623 EndDate=19400731 Squadron1Class=Trainer Squadron1No=1 [AirGroup 4] StartDate=19400801 EndDate=19400908 Squadron1Class=FHurricaneMkI ;No. 1 Sqn. RAF (fighter squadron, No. 11 Group - Battle of Britain) Squadron1No=6 [AirGroup 5] StartDate=19400909 EndDate=19450930 Squadron1Class=Trainer Squadron1No=1 ;****************** THE END ****************** I am actually surprised that no one before has thought about that. Unfortunately we don't have a similarly good solution for scout plane-equipped battleships and cruisers, since converting them into carriers would mess too much taskforce layers and probably their AI too. |
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12-07-20, 03:17 AM | #8 |
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A bit on a side from this discussion, but I wonder, if the general rule for capital ships in U-Boat infested waters was to sail at high speed and not stop for anything in order not to become an easy target for a torpedo, how do you regularly recover your scout plane?
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12-07-20, 01:46 PM | #9 | |
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That sounds OK to me but again, my knowledge of airplanes mechanics in the campaign is quite limited. I guess it should work generally. I'll make sure to post my findings as soon I learn something new about planes...
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