[WIP] Japanese Campaign - Page 84

Bubblehead1980 · 07-25-17, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

This and FotRSU will both have it... we hope

I hope so as well. Definitely an element missing. Shocked the guys who accomplished it a while back never uploaded to subsim.

Do allied aircraft in the IJN campaign drop homing torpedoes? I recall seeing this in the thread long ago. Wondering if they got it working.

propbeanie · 07-25-17, 10:22 PM

The regular torpedoes were never "accurate" unless a target was standing still, or if the shooter was close enough, the shootee could be slow moving. That would be my guess as to why they didn't. If you can get the AI to target correctly, you'd be famous, maybe even infamous...

As for the dropped torpedoes, the homing ones did not work from the airplanes for whatever reason in a lot of tries, but someone did it... where is that confounded thread?... Can't find it real quick, but it was Rubini in SH3:

Hah! found the thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197919
and the release thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197762

I'm not sure what all it takes to convert it to SH4 compatibility. Now, if you could get an AI ship / sub to shoot one of those, "modded" to go normal torp speed, who'd need 'proper' targeting?... Look-out!

keltos01 · 07-27-17, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

The regular torpedoes were never "accurate" unless a target was standing still, or if the shooter was close enough, the shootee could be slow moving. That would be my guess as to why they didn't. If you can get the AI to target correctly, you'd be famous, maybe even infamous...

As for the dropped torpedoes, the homing ones did not work from the airplanes for whatever reason in a lot of tries, but someone did it... where is that confounded thread?... Can't find it real quick, but it was Rubini in SH3:

Hah! found the thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197919
and the release thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197762

I'm not sure what all it takes to convert it to SH4 compatibility. Now, if you could get an AI ship / sub to shoot one of those, "modded" to go normal torp speed, who'd need 'proper' targeting?... Look-out!

WOOW!!!!

that's what we had been trying to mod all along ! now if you add that to PBY MAD planes !!! do you see my drift ?

great find PropBeanie !!!

Keltos

propbeanie · 07-27-17, 07:50 AM

That deal is being worked on now, though it has its pitfalls... I may have to call in our private consultants, and of course, when that happens, the fee goes up exponentially...

- we might have to throw in some double cheeseburgers, or maybe even a pizza to get this done...

Bubblehead1980 · 07-27-17, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

The regular torpedoes were never "accurate" unless a target was standing still, or if the shooter was close enough, the shootee could be slow moving. That would be my guess as to why they didn't. If you can get the AI to target correctly, you'd be famous, maybe even infamous...

As for the dropped torpedoes, the homing ones did not work from the airplanes for whatever reason in a lot of tries, but someone did it... where is that confounded thread?... Can't find it real quick, but it was Rubini in SH3:

Hah! found the thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197919
and the release thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197762

I'm not sure what all it takes to convert it to SH4 compatibility. Now, if you could get an AI ship / sub to shoot one of those, "modded" to go normal torp speed, who'd need 'proper' targeting?... Look-out!

That is awesome. Would be great if could implement that as FIDO into IJN campaign. Plenty of expletive laden rants would occur.

keltos01 · 07-28-17, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

That is awesome. Would be great if could implement that as FIDO into IJN campaign. Plenty of expletive laden rants would occur.

we had tried to clone an existing torpedobomber into a homing_torpedo_bomber changing the ammo to mk-27 FIDO in the .sim file but from our tests it seemed like the torpedoes were non guiding...

the goal was to be able to replay the sinking of the I-52 in the Atlantic fi, though the Brits also used it I think and also against german uboots..

goodwin315 · 07-29-17, 09:29 AM

seems a tad rude for a new member to ask but this mod looks so good i cant resist, sorry :/

is the mod nearing release (assuming its not already) as i cant navigate this site for the life of me and cant seem to find a download.

propbeanie · 07-29-17, 10:22 AM

No download yet. I'm currently stumped on an issue in the Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate mod, then I'll be turning my attention back to this one, and hopefully have a "beta" out with reasonable, "simple" missions for a few of the boats. What I mean by "simple" is that there would not be any airplane launches from the submarines, nor any barge or tube launches. For the time being, we'll keep the "airplane" missions to just mentioning (maybe) that "Our aircraft pilot reports that there are three British Light Cruisers in Colombo harbor, sir!". ie: Just simulating the simulated airplane... tic - similarly with the supply drops for places like Guadalcanal and the Aleutians, there will just be the commando raft for now. We are working on those two issues, which Peabovy, keltos01 and myself feel are integral to a Japanese submarine campaign. There are all sorts of ideas on how to do this, but thus far, no tangible success that we recognize. Changing the raft does work, but then you are stuck with what you change it to. We're looking for something "dynamic"...

s7rikeback · 07-29-17, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

No download yet. I'm currently stumped on an issue in the Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate mod, then I'll be turning my attention back to this one, and hopefully have a "beta" out with reasonable, "simple" missions for a few of the boats. What I mean by "simple" is that there would not be any airplane launches from the submarines, nor any barge or tube launches. For the time being, we'll keep the "airplane" missions to just mentioning (maybe) that "Our aircraft pilot reports that there are three British Light Cruisers in Colombo harbor, sir!". ie: Just simulating the simulated airplane... tic - similarly with the supply drops for places like Guadalcanal and the Aleutians, there will just be the commando raft for now. We are working on those two issues, which Peabovy, keltos01 and myself feel are integral to a Japanese submarine campaign. There are all sorts of ideas on how to do this, but thus far, no tangible success that we recognize. Changing the raft does work, but then you are stuck with what you change it to. We're looking for something "dynamic"...

PB, sounds really great, you mentioned a name... Peabody, is he now active within CMN? and perhaps FOTRSU?

propbeanie · 07-29-17, 07:56 PM

No, unfortunately, he is not. Life has dealt him a few deals that are a bit difficult to deal with and still have play time here, so he pays attention to what's important. keltos01 has been in touch with him lately a couple of times, but Peabody does not have time to even come look over here... our loss. I have been re-discovering so many brick walls that he'd already run into. If I would have been paying a little more attention, I would have seen the blood and skin matter from his previous encounters, and wouldn't have had to of come down a few of those dead-end alleys. But, ha gotta try, just to prove to yourself that, yes indeed, I don't learn very well unless I break it myself a few times...

Turbografx · 11-21-18, 05:14 PM

Is this mod still being developed? Would love to try an IJN campaign.

propbeanie · 11-21-18, 07:39 PM

Yes, but on "Pause" at the moment for other commitments. In the meantime, Cybermat47 took keltos01's sub mods, and made some edits to produce Japanese Career

merc4ulfate · 10-19-19, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Yes, but on "Pause" at the moment for other commitments. In the meantime, Cybermat47 took keltos01's sub mods, and made some edits to produce Japanese Career

What a great looking mod and the acoustic fish ... I would love to see that in FOTRSU under IJN AI use.

keltos01 · 03-06-20, 09:19 AM

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...USNTMJ_toc.htm

a wealth of info

the radar data :

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...ort%20E-01.pdf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I am sure have encountered this in your research for this mod. Around what dates did IJN subs get radar? Which type(s) did they use? I am adding radar to AI Japanese sub(s) for RSRD/TMO.

Mad Mardigan · 03-16-20, 10:15 PM

Have to say, it would be real interesting, to not only head out as a U.S. skipper, a Kaleun, but now... as a I.J.N. skipper as well.

Will be watching & waiting with bated breath, for this...

07-25-17, 10:22 PM	#1247
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,911 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	The regular torpedoes were never "accurate" unless a target was standing still, or if the shooter was close enough, the shootee could be slow moving. That would be my guess as to why they didn't. If you can get the AI to target correctly, you'd be famous, maybe even infamous... As for the dropped torpedoes, the homing ones did not work from the airplanes for whatever reason in a lot of tries, but someone did it... where is that confounded thread?... Can't find it real quick, but it was Rubini in SH3: Hah! found the thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197919 and the release thread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=197762 I'm not sure what all it takes to convert it to SH4 compatibility. Now, if you could get an AI ship / sub to shoot one of those, "modded" to go normal torp speed, who'd need 'proper' targeting?... Look-out! __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna Last edited by propbeanie; 07-25-17 at 10:40 PM. Reason: Rubini

07-27-17, 07:50 AM	#1249
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,911 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	That deal is being worked on now, though it has its pitfalls... I may have to call in our private consultants, and of course, when that happens, the fee goes up exponentially... - we might have to throw in some double cheeseburgers, or maybe even a pizza to get this done... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

07-29-17, 10:22 AM	#1253
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,911 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	No download yet. I'm currently stumped on an issue in the Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate mod, then I'll be turning my attention back to this one, and hopefully have a "beta" out with reasonable, "simple" missions for a few of the boats. What I mean by "simple" is that there would not be any airplane launches from the submarines, nor any barge or tube launches. For the time being, we'll keep the "airplane" missions to just mentioning (maybe) that "Our aircraft pilot reports that there are three British Light Cruisers in Colombo harbor, sir!". ie: Just simulating the simulated airplane... tic - similarly with the supply drops for places like Guadalcanal and the Aleutians, there will just be the commando raft for now. We are working on those two issues, which Peabovy, keltos01 and myself feel are integral to a Japanese submarine campaign. There are all sorts of ideas on how to do this, but thus far, no tangible success that we recognize. Changing the raft does work, but then you are stuck with what you change it to. We're looking for something "dynamic"... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

07-29-17, 07:56 PM	#1255
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,911 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	No, unfortunately, he is not. Life has dealt him a few deals that are a bit difficult to deal with and still have play time here, so he pays attention to what's important. keltos01 has been in touch with him lately a couple of times, but Peabody does not have time to even come look over here... our loss. I have been re-discovering so many brick walls that he'd already run into. If I would have been paying a little more attention, I would have seen the blood and skin matter from his previous encounters, and wouldn't have had to of come down a few of those dead-end alleys. But, ha gotta try, just to prove to yourself that, yes indeed, I don't learn very well unless I break it myself a few times... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

11-21-18, 07:39 PM	#1257
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,911 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	Yes, but on "Pause" at the moment for other commitments. In the meantime, Cybermat47 took keltos01's sub mods, and made some edits to produce Japanese Career __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

07-29-17, 09:29 AM	#1252
goodwin315 Bilge Rat Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 1 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	seems a tad rude for a new member to ask but this mod looks so good i cant resist, sorry :/ is the mod nearing release (assuming its not already) as i cant navigate this site for the life of me and cant seem to find a download.

11-21-18, 05:14 PM	#1256
Turbografx Old Stormalong Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Gret Stet of Loosiana Posts: 232 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Is this mod still being developed? Would love to try an IJN campaign.

03-16-20, 10:15 PM	#1260
Mad Mardigan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 2,327 Downloads: 491 Uploads: 0	IJN add on for SH$... cool... Have to say, it would be real interesting, to not only head out as a U.S. skipper, a Kaleun, but now... as a I.J.N. skipper as well. Will be watching & waiting with bated breath, for this... __________________