New Cold Waters Screenshots

[Julhelm]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Can't argue against that, I guess.

I played through the entire game and didn't find it to be mindless or arcade. Perhaps you can call it a lite sim. The aforementioned as well as the intro video starring mr Clancy himself seem to support this notion.

Look, I really don't see the issue.
I made a suggestion, others like it, you don't.
Mentioning that other naval sims do use NATO designations too was merely one supportive argument, not sure why this became the topic suddenly.

I'm all for suggestions, but you make it sound like this is some kind of dealbreaker which I find to be unjust. Especially since we took care to have accurately formated radio messages and even the news updates are written in an authentic 80's style.

Originally Posted by Julhelm

I played through the entire game and didn't find it to be mindless or arcade. Perhaps you can call it a lite sim.

That term fits rather well, yes!

Originally Posted by Julhelm

I'm all for suggestions, but you make it sound like this is some kind of dealbreaker which I find to be unjust.

Honestly, then you're reading things into my messages I never said.
Because what I said was:

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I'm looking forward to your game either way and I'm sure it will be great.

And also mentioned multiple times that I do not care as long as it is moddable, which it is - so all good.

Originally Posted by Julhelm

Especially since we took care to have accurately formated radio messages and even the news updates are written in an authentic 80's style.

Interesting fact here.
When I saw screenshots showing what you just mentioned, I made the decision to buy it. The art-style is right on and I love details like the radio message NATO format etc. This is what makes games rich, in my opinion.
I just wonder why you bring it up. I didn't complain about any of that, didn't even mention it, nor did I say your game is arcadeish altogether.

My argument was just that not having the designations makes a modern naval game appear a little arcade (in that regard, not overall), as if it doesn't matter that your target is a SSN, FFG, or whatever - when this is of utmost importance.
Not sure if you see my point, but that's really it. Never said anything about deal breaking. Or it being a big deal in the first place.

Just something that caught my eye.

[Julhelm]

I guess I just have a conditioned response to hearing the term 'arcade' from years of hearing it thrown about as an insult on sim forums. Sorry about that.

It's not a bad point but we never noticed this, and putting it in there means redesigning the minimap/data window which we just don't have the time to do anymore, since we're already delayed by several months

Right now we're working overtime crushing bugs, balancing the gameplay and making sure the game is challenging and entertaining.

At least contacts get denoted S for sonar, E for ESM, R for radar, V for visual and M for master.

Originally Posted by Julhelm

I guess I just have a conditioned response to hearing the term 'arcade' from years of hearing it thrown about as an insult on sim forums. Sorry about that.

No problem.