The Hunter

11-09-13, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

I have used arrows in recent weeks a lot, but made it a principle to shoot at ranges of 20m maximum, closer preferred. Dickschädel beasts I use the crossbow for. Lighter animals I prefer to go after with the Python, its the most silent one. I plan to start with the Vorderlader, after I met some point scoring goals with the mentioned weapons.

I absolutely love the recurve bow, it is so much fun! And I could not agree more, I won't shoot ofer 20m anymore myself, spend too much time with Nachsuche and often seen the arrow not penetrating the lungs even on medium game (which is completely unrealistic btw, the bows in tH are a joke, power-wise!).

You will have fun with the Vorderlader as well, I am certain. I haven't used it much so far but I do love it. I got a Fox at ~70m a few days ago with it. Risky shot due to the guns "precision" but hey... got him!

Together with the trapper clothes, it must feel like hunting 150 years ago, haha.

Skybird · 11-09-13, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I absolutely love the recurve bow, it is so much fun! And I could not agree more, I won't shoot ofer 20m anymore myself, spend too much time with Nachsuche and often seen the arrow not penetrating the lungs even on medium game (which is completely unrealistic btw, the bows in tH are a joke, power-wise!).

Yes, but I understand that this sim also is a game and the various bows must be made having differences that nevertheless are balanced to each other. There is no point in having one bow that is the most precise, strongest and most silent because then there is no need to chose any of the others. The crossbow for strength and long distance (you can lie down on the ground with it), the Python for silence.

11-09-13, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Yes, but I understand that this sim also is a game and the various bows must be made having differences that nevertheless are balanced to each other. There is no point in having one bow that is the most precise, strongest and most silent because then there is no need to chose any of the others. The crossbow for strength and long distance (you can lie down on the ground with it), the Python for silence.

I know, yet I really don't appreciate this marketing and balancing strategy. We had the compound and the recurve bow. The next logical (and wanted) step would have been a strong longbow. Why?

You got the compound bow for "easy" shooting. It is strong, you can anchor it a long time (in RL as well), it is very stable due to light and modern design and the aiming dots will help the most imbecile shooter to hit something not too far away.

Then we got the recurve bow.
A weapon for enthusiasts and traditional bow hunters or those who want to learn it, who wants a challenge of getting even closer to place a good shot. I fell in love on first sight.
This one should be a tad stronger to compensate for the heavier shaking, less anchoring and lack of aiming assistance.

Then we should have had the Longbow, not another compound. Why?
The Longbow would have been the strongest, lets say a 110lbs monster. You could not anchor it and would have to shoot even more instinctive as with the recurve. Pull and release, no anchoring, maximum a second or so.
To compensate the even more difficult shooting it would have been the strongest, dropping big game easily.

What did they do? Bring us another compound. And why?
Money/Licence reasons. How I hate that...
I want them to have money, it's not that. But the recent money-pressing strategy just makes me mad...

If they at least would get a deal with Mauser so we would see the Mauser M03/M12/M98 series... gah.

Skybird · 11-09-13, 08:20 PM

The one thing about the Python is stealth. The other bows are noisemakers, compared to it. The Python can shoot several arrows without close animals spooking.

The Snakebite is the one bow too much in the collection, I think, but I got it anyway with the DVD edition last year. I later bought the Python for looks only. The silence argument I learned later about.

I agree that with clothes and premium items and the many rifles now they are aiming at people's wallets only. But then, nobody is forced to buy. While I have more firearms than I use, most of them I have due to the DVD edition including them last year. Don't know how it is with the 2014 edition which is out since 4 weeks or so.

I do not plan to buy any new weapons as long as it is no Tomahawk or throwing speer.

11-09-13, 08:39 PM

A Tomahawk? Mhhh...

Regarding the silent Parker bow. The problem is, it is only silent if you hit both lungs, the heart, the brain or the neck bones/spine. Due to the lack of power you won't hit both lungs on most game and the heart is kinda misplaced for some animals and I still struggle to be 100% sure where it is depending on the species, which freaks me off. The roe deers heart for example is, according to the hunter mate, completely misplaced. I wanted to do some tests and aim for the exact position where it is in RL, but I havn't done it yet. Even with virtual animals "testing" feels kinda wrong to me.

Anyways, if you hit it and the animal runs - they all run. A problem currently being discussed in the official forums.

It is a great bow non the less and still on my "maybe" list. Right now its just no priority for me.

Skybird · 11-09-13, 09:12 PM

Get closer. 20m is the MAXIMUM.

With arrows,I always go for heart shots, frontal preferred. On Loggers Point I have gotten full packs of Muledeer - good hiding, staying hidden, luring them VERY close, and dropping them instantly with heart shots. Nothing beats the Python when used this way. If they are too close, the other bows spook animals as well. The Python does not. The 40 and 60 meter pins for it are a bad joke, however. It can reach that far, yes, but you spoil your silence advantage, and always have a long search.

Problem with Logger's Point is the open range. I hide in trees and bushes (and I mean full concealment by foliage, even when interrupting LOS), or just behind hilltops, luring animals blindly, one by one, to pass over it, then go for neck shots at <10m. In this context I also avoid shooting at moving animals, if possible.

Maybe they should make ropes a new weapon, to strangle deer.

11-09-13, 09:16 PM

I don't like to shoot from the front for various reasons, but I know it works well.

If I catch it on sale I probably buy it, it sure looks great, a quite important aspect for me (see 8x53mm rant

).

Red October1984 · 11-21-13, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Maybe they should make ropes a new weapon, to strangle deer.

You know....Missouri has an Alternate Method season this year....

Skybird · 11-21-13, 07:05 PM

The next reserve has been revealed: it will be in the style of the swamps and marshlands of Louisiana. It's in the final stage. One new species as well, so far unnamed. I bet it has wings, feathers and makes a squawking sound.

11-22-13, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

The next reserve has been revealed: it will be in the style of the swamps and marshlands of Louisiana. It's in the final stage. One new species as well, so far unnamed. I bet it has wings, feathers and makes a squawking sound.

Meh... People where yacking for waterfowls quite a while now and this new reserve just has to bring them. I am not interested in both, but so far Hirschfelden and Hemeldal keep me happy. And I just love Rehe.

Edit: And more bad news for me. They finally released the longbow. The weapon I waited so long for, I love longbows... and what did they do? They made it even WEAKER than the recurve bow.
Wth...

I start to hate these developers... really. -.-

Skybird · 11-22-13, 11:18 AM

It's worthwhile to keep in mind that the major concern for them is to make the weapons with different specs ingame, so that you do not have one single weapon with all advantages (penetration, precision, stealth). I can live with that, since I understand that it is part of their business model that dictates it, if they want to continue development. I personally see no point it getting the longbow. Nor is anyone forced to buy any newly released weapon.

I do not plan to buy any new weapon at all. All needs in that regard are already fulfilled, and more than that.

Best investments beyond your armory are tents, certain consumables, and some of the functionality clothes. Binoculars with laser range finder, if you are an arrow-user.

Beyond that it is eyecandy.

One can spend a little fortune on this game, it is the most expensive game I ever used. But beyond a certain point one can also avoid that - and just spend on renewing the membership once or twice a year.

The good news is, different to so many other games with payware content, beyond relatively little stuff all additional stuff is not mandatory for you to get if you want to keep your chances for successful gameplay. you can perfectly go on without that new stuff. They try to bait you, yes, with eye candy. But they do not overstep the red line to making buying it mandatory, directly or in directly.

11-22-13, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

It's worthwhile to keep in mind that the major concern for them is to make the weapons with different specs ingame, so that you do not have one single weapon with all advantages (penetration, precision, stealth). I can live with that, since I understand that it is part of their business model that dictates it, if they want to continue development. I personally see no point it getting the longbow. Nor is anyone forced to buy any newly released weapon.

I do not plan to buy any new weapon at all. All needs in that regard are already fulfilled, and more than that.

Best investments beyond your armory are tents, certain consumables, and some of the functionality clothes. Binoculars with laser range finder, if you are an arrow-user.

Beyond that it is eyecandy.

One can spend a little fortune on this game, it is the most expensive game I ever used. But beyond a certain point one can also avoid that - and just spend on renewing the membership once or twice a year.

The good news is, different to so many other games with payware content, beyond relatively little stuff all additional stuff is not mandatory for you to get if you want to keep your chances for successful gameplay. you can perfectly go on without that new stuff. They try to bait you, yes, with eye candy. But they do not overstep the red line to making buying it mandatory, directly or in directly.

I know all that. It's just... finally they make the longbow...and than it is not what it should be and also so in between the others that there is no need for it.

It should have been the strongest bow. This would have been a logical step...but no, lets fork it up again.

Time for a Döner to compensate my bad mood

Skybird · 12-06-13, 07:32 AM

New species spotted. I will soon hunt ducks in Louisiana's swamps.

Red October1984 · 12-06-13, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

New species spotted. I will soon hunt ducks in Louisiana's swamps.

I was going to go hunt them today for real....

But I can't leave. I'm kinda sad.

Post some screenshots of the duck hunting in the game please.

EDIT: Game probably didn't model it...but don't look at the ducks when you're calling them in. They'll see your eyes.

Skybird · 12-06-13, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984

Post some screenshots of the duck hunting in the game please.

New reserve is not yet released, but they are in the final stage. A christmas present? Or 2014? No word is given so far. The reserve is named as Rougarou Bayou.

Click the images here:

http://news.thehunter.com/status-update-64/

11-09-13, 08:20 PM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,679 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The one thing about the Python is stealth. The other bows are noisemakers, compared to it. The Python can shoot several arrows without close animals spooking. The Snakebite is the one bow too much in the collection, I think, but I got it anyway with the DVD edition last year. I later bought the Python for looks only. The silence argument I learned later about. I agree that with clothes and premium items and the many rifles now they are aiming at people's wallets only. But then, nobody is forced to buy. While I have more firearms than I use, most of them I have due to the DVD edition including them last year. Don't know how it is with the 2014 edition which is out since 4 weeks or so. I do not plan to buy any new weapons as long as it is no Tomahawk or throwing speer. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-09-13, 09:12 PM	#6
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,679 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Get closer. 20m is the MAXIMUM. With arrows,I always go for heart shots, frontal preferred. On Loggers Point I have gotten full packs of Muledeer - good hiding, staying hidden, luring them VERY close, and dropping them instantly with heart shots. Nothing beats the Python when used this way. If they are too close, the other bows spook animals as well. The Python does not. The 40 and 60 meter pins for it are a bad joke, however. It can reach that far, yes, but you spoil your silence advantage, and always have a long search. Problem with Logger's Point is the open range. I hide in trees and bushes (and I mean full concealment by foliage, even when interrupting LOS), or just behind hilltops, luring animals blindly, one by one, to pass over it, then go for neck shots at <10m. In this context I also avoid shooting at moving animals, if possible. Maybe they should make ropes a new weapon, to strangle deer. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-21-13, 07:05 PM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,679 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The next reserve has been revealed: it will be in the style of the swamps and marshlands of Louisiana. It's in the final stage. One new species as well, so far unnamed. I bet it has wings, feathers and makes a squawking sound. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-22-13, 11:18 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,679 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	It's worthwhile to keep in mind that the major concern for them is to make the weapons with different specs ingame, so that you do not have one single weapon with all advantages (penetration, precision, stealth). I can live with that, since I understand that it is part of their business model that dictates it, if they want to continue development. I personally see no point it getting the longbow. Nor is anyone forced to buy any newly released weapon. I do not plan to buy any new weapon at all. All needs in that regard are already fulfilled, and more than that. Best investments beyond your armory are tents, certain consumables, and some of the functionality clothes. Binoculars with laser range finder, if you are an arrow-user. Beyond that it is eyecandy. One can spend a little fortune on this game, it is the most expensive game I ever used. But beyond a certain point one can also avoid that - and just spend on renewing the membership once or twice a year. The good news is, different to so many other games with payware content, beyond relatively little stuff all additional stuff is not mandatory for you to get if you want to keep your chances for successful gameplay. you can perfectly go on without that new stuff. They try to bait you, yes, with eye candy. But they do not overstep the red line to making buying it mandatory, directly or in directly. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-06-13, 07:32 AM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,679 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	New species spotted. I will soon hunt ducks in Louisiana's swamps. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-09-13, 08:39 PM	#5
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	A Tomahawk? Mhhh... Regarding the silent Parker bow. The problem is, it is only silent if you hit both lungs, the heart, the brain or the neck bones/spine. Due to the lack of power you won't hit both lungs on most game and the heart is kinda misplaced for some animals and I still struggle to be 100% sure where it is depending on the species, which freaks me off. The roe deers heart for example is, according to the hunter mate, completely misplaced. I wanted to do some tests and aim for the exact position where it is in RL, but I havn't done it yet. Even with virtual animals "testing" feels kinda wrong to me. Anyways, if you hit it and the animal runs - they all run. A problem currently being discussed in the official forums. It is a great bow non the less and still on my "maybe" list. Right now its just no priority for me.

11-09-13, 09:16 PM	#7
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I don't like to shoot from the front for various reasons, but I know it works well. If I catch it on sale I probably buy it, it sure looks great, a quite important aspect for me (see 8x53mm rant ).