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Old 10-10-10, 07:37 PM   #1
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Default 1982 South Atlantic Submarine War - new book

Well, after two years of research and writing, I finished my book about ASW from the Argentine perspective (mainly carrier-borne Trackers and Sea Kings against HMS Spartan and HMS Splendid, a real and forgotten history)

The book will be on bookstores (here in Argentina) next week.

Here is the front cover and back.



Also, the friends at ElSnorkel.com published the intro ( AFTER THE BRITISH SUBMARINES ) They had an online translator available (the little flags...)

This is a huge step for an amateur historian like me. The plan for next year is translate it to english (so Fatty keep prepared)...

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I knew Argentina had ASW aircraft (Trackers and Neptunes plus the helos) but I never knew they used them for ASW... I figured they just did reccees for the British surface ships.

I also wondered if they used their aircraft to try and sanitize the area ahead of Belgrano.

A lot of untapped history here I think...

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Wow a milestone indeed congrats!
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Thanks guys for the comments.

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I also wondered if they used their aircraft to try and sanitize the area ahead of Belgrano.
The book covers mainly ASW defense of Task Group 79.1, centered on the ARA 25 de Mayo (the carrier) . The TG used a comprehensive and sustained ASW plan (using the destroyer escort, Sea Kings and Trackers), and it limited British submarines freedom of action.

Of course, Belgrano TG did not use proper ASW tactics and did not have organic air cover. So the Conqueror enjoyed enough freedom of action to shot a three salvo from 1200 yards.

The contrast is the main point of the book.

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I look forward to translated version
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Well, it is here.



I had a daughter also. So it´s only the tree thing left.
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Will there be translations into other languages? My Spanish is muy malo.
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Will there be translations into other languages? My Spanish is muy malo.
I plan to translate at least a chapter next year, to submit it to Naval History or Proceedings. If I find the money (or a publisher for the english version?), the whole book.

If you want an idea about the book topic:

http://174.123.69.202/~subsimc/radio...d.php?p=959068

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It looks like it would be an interesting read. There is still very little known about the part played by subs and the Argentine Navy during the conflict, at least here in Britain. Apart from the sinking of the Belgrano the press revolved around the initial air battles and then the land war itself.

I think the thing that really came across for me is just how powerful a weapon the nuclear submarine really is. The very thought that one might be in the area can cripple the freedom of action of an entire navy. After the sinking of the Belgrano the Argentine Navy effectively ceased to be a viable force, unable to leave port without massive ASW effort. With great speed, endurance and stealth, the nuclear sub really is an incredible weapon, and very difficult to counter.
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In my very humble opinion, the best book about sub war in the South Atlantic from the Brit side, is Sink the Belgrano, by Mike Rossiter ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sink-Belgran.../dp/0593058429 )

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