War Plan + War Plan Pacific

Skybird · 01-12-23, 08:04 PM

Oubaas recently planted this mine in my mind by reminding me with a casual comment that this game existed. I considered War Plan when it arrived, but for some reasons then walked by. I now consider to get it, but maybe the Pacific title first - question is whether I can expect that any possible improvements over the first game have been implemented in the Pacific game, any letdowns and flaws that were corrected in the seocnd game? Or is it just the exact same gameplay, without any polishing added, thus being only a "mission pack?"

And can the full war played in one giant "mission", or is it limited to missions partitioning the war?

I played War in the East, and was a bit overwhelmed by it, did not really enjoy it (but deeply respected it). One or two notches less on the escalation and logistics management scale might be more enjoyable for me.

I am waiting for Second Front at the end of this month. Possible that I will buy WP before that - or long time after that, for I hope and expect SF to keep me busy, I am really waiting for that one since I first time heard of it.

Here are some video reviews. The fiorts is pretty positive.

The second one has some cons and wishes, some of which are no longe rrelevant since updates took care of soem of them.

Note, in the comments of the second video the deveeoper mentions that he is working on the War Plan 2 engine.

This review is on the first War Plan.

Skybird · 01-14-23, 04:20 AM

The manual for Warplan, the first, can be downloaded from the Steam shop page. I currently read through it. Answers a lot of questions. Will buy it later this day for sure.

Also, many cons mentioned by some after release, seem to have been adressed and changed by later updates.

Manual for Pacific seems not to be there.

Will probably buy even both, with a -15% discount.

I had once waited many years for World of Flames, only then to get spilled with icy-cold water when they said they will not make an AI for it. But WarPlan sounds as if being made for me.

Oubaas · 01-16-23, 01:43 AM

I can't comment on improvements as the games had already been updated when I bought them. I haven't found anything wrong in either case.

If you're new to the series, I found WarPlan: Pacific the best for learning the games, but you could probably manage with either.

Skybird · 01-16-23, 06:43 AM

I got both, currently reading through the manual for WP1. Tehcncially, the game slook good, the itnerface and font soize can be set acording to my eye's taste and need, and the maps scroll marvelously smooth. Many cosims get these things terribly wrong.

Oubaas · 01-17-23, 02:08 PM

If you like hex-based war games I think you'll enjoy them, Skybird. I started with the Guadalcanal mission in WarPlan: Pacific and it worked well for learning the games. I've won at Guadalcanal so many times that they ought to give me a WWII Victory Medal, LOL!

Watch out for the IJN in Pacific. You can lose a lot of ships in a hurry if you get yourself into the wrong engagement.

Skybird · 01-17-23, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oubaas

Watch out for the IJN in Pacific. You can lose a lot of ships in a hurry if you get yourself into the wrong engagement.

I send in Neal. Problem solved.

Skybird · 01-31-23, 08:27 AM

Half an hour of gameplay to illustrate how the game feels and plays, what the sequence of play in every turn looks like, how the flow is.

I like the game, but am a bit irritated, for some reason that I cannot clearly identify I find it hard a bit to get into it. Still, I like it. One of the best hexfield cosims I have seen so far.

01-12-23, 08:04 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,489 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	War Plan + War Plan Pacific Oubaas recently planted this mine in my mind by reminding me with a casual comment that this game existed. I considered War Plan when it arrived, but for some reasons then walked by. I now consider to get it, but maybe the Pacific title first - question is whether I can expect that any possible improvements over the first game have been implemented in the Pacific game, any letdowns and flaws that were corrected in the seocnd game? Or is it just the exact same gameplay, without any polishing added, thus being only a "mission pack?" And can the full war played in one giant "mission", or is it limited to missions partitioning the war? I played War in the East, and was a bit overwhelmed by it, did not really enjoy it (but deeply respected it). One or two notches less on the escalation and logistics management scale might be more enjoyable for me. I am waiting for Second Front at the end of this month. Possible that I will buy WP before that - or long time after that, for I hope and expect SF to keep me busy, I am really waiting for that one since I first time heard of it. Here are some video reviews. The fiorts is pretty positive. The second one has some cons and wishes, some of which are no longe rrelevant since updates took care of soem of them. Note, in the comments of the second video the deveeoper mentions that he is working on the War Plan 2 engine. This review is on the first War Plan. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-14-23, 04:20 AM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,489 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The manual for Warplan, the first, can be downloaded from the Steam shop page. I currently read through it. Answers a lot of questions. Will buy it later this day for sure. Also, many cons mentioned by some after release, seem to have been adressed and changed by later updates. Manual for Pacific seems not to be there. Will probably buy even both, with a -15% discount. I had once waited many years for World of Flames, only then to get spilled with icy-cold water when they said they will not make an AI for it. But WarPlan sounds as if being made for me. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-16-23, 06:43 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,489 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I got both, currently reading through the manual for WP1. Tehcncially, the game slook good, the itnerface and font soize can be set acording to my eye's taste and need, and the maps scroll marvelously smooth. Many cosims get these things terribly wrong. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-31-23, 08:27 AM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,489 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Half an hour of gameplay to illustrate how the game feels and plays, what the sequence of play in every turn looks like, how the flow is. I like the game, but am a bit irritated, for some reason that I cannot clearly identify I find it hard a bit to get into it. Still, I like it. One of the best hexfield cosims I have seen so far. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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01-16-23, 01:43 AM	#3
Oubaas Weps Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 367 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	I can't comment on improvements as the games had already been updated when I bought them. I haven't found anything wrong in either case. If you're new to the series, I found WarPlan: Pacific the best for learning the games, but you could probably manage with either.

01-17-23, 02:08 PM	#5
Oubaas Weps Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 367 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	If you like hex-based war games I think you'll enjoy them, Skybird. I started with the Guadalcanal mission in WarPlan: Pacific and it worked well for learning the games. I've won at Guadalcanal so many times that they ought to give me a WWII Victory Medal, LOL! Watch out for the IJN in Pacific. You can lose a lot of ships in a hurry if you get yourself into the wrong engagement.