[REL] Fifi Enhancements for NYGM

Tabris · 12-23-23, 04:00 AM

I've only just gotten this mega-mod installed, and I'm really liking what I'm seeing so far! Thanks to Fifi et al for all the hard work. I have yet to go out on patrol as I've never done manual targeting before and I need to learn it first. I've been trying to work out the system in a controlled environment. It isn't going well.

How on earth does manual ranging work??? I've tried both DGUI and ARB as included with Steel Coffins Edition and most of the time, the RAOBF tool is just...wrong? Here is my process for learning/testing it:

1) Target ships in port while the boat and targets are stationary
2) ask the Weapons Officer for target ID and a solution (using lower difficulty settings for this so the WE can be exact and to give us God's-eye view, but Manual Targeting is turned on as always) and/or check the target's range on the Nav map or TDC screen
3) check the RAOBF to see if I'm understanding it correctly, working "backwards" basically

Most of the time, when I match up the target's range and mast height on the "outer ring," it's just slightly off. i.e. the "inner ring" shows 1.7 but when I look at the target I see 1.4. Sometimes it's just completely wrong, like the RAOBF indicating 4.0 when with my eyes I'm seeing 6.0. Sometimes it's exactly right, but I get the feeling if the crosshair isn't calibrated, the "correct" answers are flukes anyway.

I've checked the various reticles available to me as they're all on a different scale and found that the red crosshair that pops up when you open the RAOBF is the least inaccurate compared to the values in the scope itself or in the UZO.

I'm not assuming there's something wrong with the mod itself - perhaps my installation of course though it seemed simple enough - rather I think I'm just missing something. Possibilities:
- This whole system is supposed to be inaccurate, as it's simulating a series of estimations based on guesses in a historical context
- Some or most ships in the recognition manual don't have correct mast heights (again, on purpose)

It's shockingly difficult to find discussion on this matter. Lots of very detailed instructional guides on calculating AOB and speed, which are assuming you have the range already, but the range is the only problem I'm having! I viewed the instructional videos found in "OLC's Video Tutorials" https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=1112 which make the RAOBF sound like a pretty accurate and foolproof tool, but I know we're talking about different mods here. I appreciate any advice anyone can give.

- Tabris

12-23-23, 04:00 AM	#11
Tabris Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 101 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Help with manual ranging please! I've only just gotten this mega-mod installed, and I'm really liking what I'm seeing so far! Thanks to Fifi et al for all the hard work. I have yet to go out on patrol as I've never done manual targeting before and I need to learn it first. I've been trying to work out the system in a controlled environment. It isn't going well. How on earth does manual ranging work??? I've tried both DGUI and ARB as included with Steel Coffins Edition and most of the time, the RAOBF tool is just...wrong? Here is my process for learning/testing it: 1) Target ships in port while the boat and targets are stationary 2) ask the Weapons Officer for target ID and a solution (using lower difficulty settings for this so the WE can be exact and to give us God's-eye view, but Manual Targeting is turned on as always) and/or check the target's range on the Nav map or TDC screen 3) check the RAOBF to see if I'm understanding it correctly, working "backwards" basically Most of the time, when I match up the target's range and mast height on the "outer ring," it's just slightly off. i.e. the "inner ring" shows 1.7 but when I look at the target I see 1.4. Sometimes it's just completely wrong, like the RAOBF indicating 4.0 when with my eyes I'm seeing 6.0. Sometimes it's exactly right, but I get the feeling if the crosshair isn't calibrated, the "correct" answers are flukes anyway. I've checked the various reticles available to me as they're all on a different scale and found that the red crosshair that pops up when you open the RAOBF is the least inaccurate compared to the values in the scope itself or in the UZO. I'm not assuming there's something wrong with the mod itself - perhaps my installation of course though it seemed simple enough - rather I think I'm just missing something. Possibilities: - This whole system is supposed to be inaccurate, as it's simulating a series of estimations based on guesses in a historical context - Some or most ships in the recognition manual don't have correct mast heights (again, on purpose) It's shockingly difficult to find discussion on this matter. Lots of very detailed instructional guides on calculating AOB and speed, which are assuming you have the range already, but the range is the only problem I'm having! I viewed the instructional videos found in "OLC's Video Tutorials" https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=1112 which make the RAOBF sound like a pretty accurate and foolproof tool, but I know we're talking about different mods here. I appreciate any advice anyone can give. - Tabris