Help! Manual targeting with german IX2d ?

[Catfish]

Hello,
while i got used t the TDC of stock (1.4) SH4 and even 1.5 with US subs, i wonder how to hit ANYTHING with the german IXD boat.

Its's been a while that i played SH3, and i then used Onelifecrisis' manual targeting, so i have completely forgotten how to do this in the original game - or in SH4, with a german boat.


Angle on the bow - take it the boat symbol is the target and i adjust the outer "ring" to set ownship angle? - ok.
Distance - once checked with recognition manual - ok.

BUT: Speed ?? I am used to go so near that 1 or 2 knots deviation don't bother me, but i cannot adjust it at all.

So, 2 questions:

1.
When i click on "speed" there appears that eye, and an angle with two ships at the upper ends. Ho do i measure that speed ? I need to know what to do exactly - where do i click at exactly, to start the measuring process (at the eye - at one of the ships ? do'nt i need the stop watch ?? what ???), and how do i stop again to take the measured speed ?

2.
Supposed i guess the speed, and want to enter it manually: Being at the torpedo screen I click on the manual entering button right of the speed dial, and am now able to set a certain speed manually - now how do i send it to the german TDC ? Have i again to click at the button so am not longer able to adjust anything, or let i the light burn, to use this setting ?

Because when i'm back at the periscope the speed still reads "0", regardless what i did, and the torpedo misses everytime, even at distances of less than 600 meters !


Seems i'm dumb as a brick


Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

[looney]

best bet is to use the 3minute 15sec rule.. Take bearing and range of the target every 3.15 minutes and plot it on the nav chart. The distance between points is the speed: 100m = 1 knot and 1000m is 10 knots.

The eye thingy on the notepad puzzled me also in essence it's a computer automated thingy of what your doin at the 3.15 thingy

[Interpol]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Hello,
while i got used t the TDC of stock (1.4) SH4 and even 1.5 with US subs, i wonder how to hit ANYTHING with the german IXD boat.

Its's been a while that i played SH3, and i then used Onelifecrisis' manual targeting, so i have completely forgotten how to do this in the original game - or in SH4, with a german boat.


Angle on the bow - take it the boat symbol is the target and i adjust the outer "ring" to set ownship angle? - ok.
Distance - once checked with recognition manual - ok.

BUT: Speed ?? I am used to go so near that 1 or 2 knots deviation don't bother me, but i cannot adjust it at all.

So, 2 questions:

1.
When i click on "speed" there appears that eye, and an angle with two ships at the upper ends. Ho do i measure that speed ? I need to know what to do exactly - where do i click at exactly, to start the measuring process (at the eye - at one of the ships ? do'nt i need the stop watch ?? what ???), and how do i stop again to take the measured speed ?

2.
Supposed i guess the speed, and want to enter it manually: Being at the torpedo screen I click on the manual entering button right of the speed dial, and am now able to set a certain speed manually - now how do i send it to the german TDC ? Have i again to click at the button so am not longer able to adjust anything, or let i the light burn, to use this setting ?

Because when i'm back at the periscope the speed still reads "0", regardless what i did, and the torpedo misses everytime, even at distances of less than 600 meters !


Seems i'm dumb as a brick


Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

I only play U-boat campaign and missions as i find the US subs to be abit crappy (no offence to US Sub Fanatics ).

But anyway on the speed page with the eye & 2 ships there is a stopwatch symbol on the left handcorner of that page just left and under of the eye click that and it will estimate the speed for you. Only problem you might fight with it is that sometimes it will say it "cannot compute speed". The only way i have found to get it working is to go back and click the Angel of Bow but do not adjust the the AoB just press the tick again and do the same for range, Then try the Speed again and it should set it for you.

There is another problem where it will come up with stupid things like 60knts and stuff which is ridiculious lol. But just keep asking for the speed until it gives you a more reasonable speed.

Then once you have your speed just push the tick again and the tick again for the main page and it should give you your Gyroangel and you can check that with your bearing to see exactly which bearing its gonna head in.

Hope that helps

[Catfish]

Hello,

well thanks, i will try the automatic method first, but ...

i want to enter the enemy speed into the torpedo screen manually, you know this smaler map with the dials at the rigth,

Now say i have seen an enemy ship at some distance and angle here, and 3.x minutes later at some distance and angle there, i can easily find out what his speed is - but how do i enter it into the speed dial, so that the TDC accepts it ?

I have to click on the right knob once, so the lights go on, and i am able to manually set the enemy speed in the dial.

BUT what do i do THEN ?

If i simply let the setting as it is, without again clicking on the knob the TDC will not accept it - still reads 0 knots.

Same happens when i click on the knob so the illumination lights go out again, it is as well not being sent to the TDC - What am i doing wrong here ?!

Or is it indeed being sent to the TDC, but is just not shown at the right notepad under "speed" - and if it is that way, have i to turn the knob on, or off, after setting the speed manually ?



Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

[Catfish]

Hi,l

tried it several days, but it does not work.

The only "method" to hit anything is to let yourself tell the speed by clicking on the stop watch icon "automatically".

Any manual entering of an estimated speed (especially speed, but not only, angle is also screwed) will send the torpedos +- 90-270 degrees from your current heading.

E.g. estimate the speed at 12 knots. I enter the right ship from the recognition manual, set distance, and angle on the bow (say 3000 meters distance, and 80 degrees AOB), open the tube, go to torpedo seettings and enter manually (!) the torpedo depth to 3 feet or so, and the target speed to 12 knots.

Go back to periscope, one more check of AOB and distance, and fire. The torpedo goes right away at an angle (relative to ownship) of 90 degrees, parallel to target course, and in the direction to where the target came from.

I cannot understand that i am the only one who experiences that ?

Greetings,
Catfish

[looney]

In the attack map screen there are several dials (The important ones are in the centre) Here you can manually adjust them.. Only on the right side of the centre group there is a small button (green IIRC) push it once (turns red). You can adjust the speed on the dails now.

Then pus the same button again and only use the notepad for range updates (and maybe aob). DO NOT make new speed estimates using the notepad. It will overwrite the value you inputted.

If I have taken a good track and I see no change in course of the ship I usually get in front and position myselve at 500m and 90° aob.

I just thought of it: look at this it's for sh3 but the controls are similar.
http://www.paulwasserman.net/SHIII/

P.s. I'm writing this at work and can't be more precise cause I''m writing from memory.

[Catfish]

Hi,

Looney thanks, will try and report -

All the best,
Catfish