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Old 04-11-07, 08:56 PM   #1
Mraah
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Default [TEC] - Solved !!!! Lost Radar Contacts When Sub Heading South (90-270)

Hi,

I'm new to modding and was inspired by Ducimus' work on fixing the SD radar. I didn't have a tweak file for the sensors_sub_US so I created one by a thorough search using the "search" command for minitweaker looking for the same parameters of those found in SH3 sensors.dat .

At the end of this post is the cut/paste of the search commands to save you time on finding all the sensors (if you haven't made one yourself).

I found 20 sensors (the 21'st sensor check only revealed BearingMIN/Max data, the 22nd found nothing) so I was confident I found them all. I know most of you modder's have found and changed the SD and SJ radar's, however, appears only the top 4 radar's were changed. Here's the list :

1. SD
2. SJ
3. I-SD
4. I-SJ
5. Visual 1
6. Visual 2
7. Visual 3
8. SV ??? Replaces I-SD. I don't know if used.
9. SJ - On unknown Sub 1 ?
10. SJ - On unknown Sub 2 ?
11. SJ - On unknown Sub 3 ?
12. SJ - On unknown Sub 4 ?
13. Passive Sonar (0-150) (x-x)= bearing restriction
14. Active Sonar (210-360)
15. Passive Sonar (0-140)
16. I-SJ (220-360) - On unknown Sub 1 ? Revolving Radar with bearing restriction?
17. I-SJ (0-150) ALso contains odd data not similar to I-SJ
18. I-SJ (210-360) - On unknown Sub 2 ?
19. I-SJ - On unknown Sub 3 ?
20. I-SJ - On unknown Sub 4 ?


Ok, as you can see, some sensor's are just plain strange!!

Now, let me get back on topic. How to fix the radar so when you steer the boat to any southern heading (90-270) you don't lose radar contact ...

Explaination - How did I dicover this.
I was curious about the ElevationMin/Max entries. From a radar's point of view (and quite possibly the devs intention) the values seemed right. For instance, the SD :

ElevationMin = 359
ElevationMax = 90

Basically meaning, Min of 359 is pointing 1 degree below the horizon, Max of 90 is straight up. The SJ data has Min/Max of 357.5/30 . Looks fine on papar but it appears it's not using those values for that reason.

When trying to "tilt" the SD antenna up so it scan's the air and not the surface I had no luck. So, I played with the ElevationMax entry. Hmmmm, if 90 is up, then 181 must be all the way over the back and 1 degree below the horizon "behind" the antenna. "Lets try that!!", I said as I loaded SH4 for my test run. Hmmm, interesting, I'm now able to maintain radar contacts when the boat steer's 90-270, albeit still seeing all the radar contact's as before.

So, there you have it. The fix is to change ALL SD and SJ entries to read :

ElevationMax=181

I say ALL of them because just changing the "TOP 4" won't work, except for the SD since it lies in the top 4. That's when I figured all the boats have their own SJ radar entry because just changing the top4 had no effect on my test runs with the SJ. By the way, to confirm the SJ was working I had to "dumb-up" the SD so it wouldn't detect beyond 1000m. I haven't tested which boat is which because I wanted to get the info out ASAP. Also, I don't know if any value other than 181 will work. I can guess that any value between 91-358 or 91-357.5 will work, but it's just a WAG.

I might start a lone thread with [WIP] label for my study on the SD and SJ data, if it's appropriate. I'm not creating a new mod but I'd like to help those modder's with this problem (Ducimus appears to have too many lumps on his head) .

Here's the cut of the search commands to paste into a new sensors_sub_US.txt file if you haven't made one already .... Thanks for listening! ... Rob.


[1]
DropDownName= SD
search,SensorType,1,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,1,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,1,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,1,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,1,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,1,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,1,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,1,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,1,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,1,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,1,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,1,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,1,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,1,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,1,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,1,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,1,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,1,single,>2,ElevationMax

[2]
DropDownName=SJ
search,SensorType,2,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,2,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,2,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,2,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,2,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,2,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,2,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,2,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,2,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,2,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,2,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,2,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,2,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,2,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,2,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,2,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,2,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,2,single,>2,ElevationMax

[3]
DropDownName=SD (improved)
search,SensorType,3,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,3,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,3,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,3,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,3,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,3,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,3,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,3,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,3,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,3,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,3,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,3,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,3,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,3,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,3,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,3,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,3,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,3,single,>2,ElevationMax

[4]
DropDownName=SJ (improved)
search,SensorType,4,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,4,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,4,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,4,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,4,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,4,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,4,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,4,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,4,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,4,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,4,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,4,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,4,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,4,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,4,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,4,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,4,single,>2,ElevationMax

[5]
DropDownName=Visual 1
search,SensorType,5,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,5,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,5,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,5,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,5,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,5,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,5,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,5,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,5,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,5,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,5,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,5,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,5,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,5,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,5,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,5,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,5,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,5,single,>2,ElevationMax

[6]
DropDownName=Visual 2
search,SensorType,6,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,6,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,6,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,6,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,6,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,6,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,6,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,6,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,6,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,6,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,6,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,6,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,6,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,6,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,6,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,6,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,6,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,6,single,>2,ElevationMax

[7]
DropDownName=Visual 3
search,SensorType,7,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,7,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,7,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,7,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,7,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,7,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,7,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,7,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,7,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,7,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,7,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,7,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,7,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,7,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,7,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,7,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,7,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,7,single,>2,ElevationMax

[8]
DropDownName=SV ???
search,SensorType,8,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,8,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,8,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,8,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,8,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,8,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,8,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,8,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,8,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,8,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,8,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,8,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,8,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,8,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,8,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,8,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,8,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,8,single,>2,ElevationMax

[9]
DropDownName=SJ Unknown Sub 1 ???
search,SensorType,9,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,9,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,9,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,9,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,9,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,9,single,>2,MinSensorHeight
search,MaxSensorHeight,9,single,>2,MaxSensorHeight
search,Surface,9,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,9,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,9,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,9,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,9,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,9,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,9,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,9,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,9,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,9,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,9,single,>2,ElevationMax

[10]
DropDownName=SJ Unknown Sub 2 ???
search,SensorType,10,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,10,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,10,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,10,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,10,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,10,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,10,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,10,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,10,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,10,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,10,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,10,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,10,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,10,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,10,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,10,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,10,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,10,single,>2,ElevationMax

[11]
DropDownName=SJ Unknown Sub 3 ???
search,SensorType,11,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,11,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,11,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,11,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,11,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,11,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,11,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,11,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,11,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,11,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,11,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,11,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,11,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,11,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,11,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,11,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,11,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,11,single,>2,ElevationMax

[12]
DropDownName=SJ Unknown Sub 4 ???
search,SensorType,12,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,12,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,12,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,12,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,12,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,12,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,12,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,12,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,12,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,12,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,12,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,12,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,12,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,12,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,12,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,12,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,12,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,12,single,>2,ElevationMax

[13]
DropDownName=Passive Sonar (0-150)
search,SensorType,13,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,13,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,13,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,13,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,13,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,13,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,13,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,13,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,13,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,13,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,13,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,13,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,13,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,13,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,13,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,13,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,13,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,13,single,>2,ElevationMax

[14]
DropDownName=Active Sonar (210-360)
search,SensorType,14,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,14,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,14,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,14,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,14,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,14,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,14,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,14,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,14,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,14,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,14,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,14,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,14,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,14,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,14,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,14,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,14,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,14,single,>2,ElevationMax

[15]
DropDownName=Passive Sonar (0-140)
search,SensorType,15,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,15,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,15,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,15,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,15,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,15,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,15,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,15,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,15,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,15,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,15,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,15,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,15,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,15,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,15,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,15,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,15,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,15,single,>2,ElevationMax

[16]
DropDownName=Radar Revolving (220-360) SJ Improved ??
search,SensorType,16,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,16,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,16,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,16,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,16,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,16,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,16,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,16,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,16,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,16,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,16,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,16,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,16,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,16,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,16,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,16,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,16,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,16,single,>2,ElevationMax

[17]
DropDownName=Radar Revolving (0-150) SJ Improved ??
search,SensorType,17,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,17,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,17,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,17,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,17,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,17,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,17,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,17,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,17,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,17,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,17,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,17,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,17,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,17,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,17,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,17,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,17,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,17,single,>2,ElevationMax

[18]
DropDownName=Radar Revolving (210-360) SJ Improved ??
search,SensorType,18,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,18,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,18,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,18,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,18,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,18,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,18,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,18,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,18,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,18,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,18,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,18,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,18,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,18,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,18,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,18,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,18,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,18,single,>2,ElevationMax

[19]
DropDownName=Radar Revolving 8 SJ Improved ??
search,SensorType,19,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,19,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,19,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,19,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,19,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,19,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,19,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,19,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,19,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,19,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,19,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,19,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,19,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,19,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,19,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,19,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,19,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,19,single,>2,ElevationMax

[20]
DropDownName=Radar Revolving 9 SJ Improved ??
search,SensorType,20,byte,>2,SensorType
search,PreciseRange,20,single,>2,PreciseRange
search,MaxRange,20,single,>2,MaxRange
search,MinHeight,20,single,>2,MinHeight
search,MaxHeight,20,single,>2,MaxHeight
search,MinSensorHeight,20,single,>2,MinSensorHeigh t
search,MaxSensorHeight,20,single,>2,MaxSensorHeigh t
search,Surface,20,single,>2,Surface
search,RPMDetLevel,20,single,>2,RPMDetLevel
search,SweepPeriod,20,single,>2,SweepPeriod
search,SweepArc,20,single,>2,SweepArc
search,ProbInsideArc,20,single,>2,ProbInsideArc
search,Revolving,20,byte,>2,Revolving
search,SkipSweep,20,byte,>2,SkipSweep
search,BearingMin,20,single,>2,BearingMin
search,BearingMax,20,single,>2,BearingMax
search,ElevationMin,20,single,>2,ElevationMin
search,ElevationMax,20,single,>2,ElevationMax
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Old 04-11-07, 09:32 PM   #2
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wow Good work.

Your right, my head is rather lumpy. Got stuck in a box and couldnt get out of it. I never did fix that bloody SD radar on surface contacts. The instant i thought i had it, id run a career patrol and find out otherwise.
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wow Good work.

Your right, my head is rather lumpy. Got stuck in a box and couldnt get out of it. I never did fix that bloody SD radar on surface contacts. The instant i thought i had it, id run a career patrol and find out otherwise.
Ducimus,

When I was reading your post's on the SD work I was going to suggest a really off-the-wall solution to the problem. You gave me the idea when you said you were going to view the SD as a Naxos/Metox system. :hmm:

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Change the SensorType value to 4 (radar warning receiver).
Install a radar set to all the IJN aircraft!!!

LOL. Why not, they appear to have the uncanning ability of finding the sub anyway. All jokes aside, not a good idea. I've read the SD could pick up surface contacts, and rightfully so, just not as good as the stock SH4 radar, so it needs to be an active radar. It is emitting RF energy so bascially a ships mast 35 meters above the surface is just an airborne object attached the ground.

I'm going to see how lumps it takes in my tea before I give up!!

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Could it be that they wanted to restrict the radar based on the sub's prop noise and instead what they did was restrict it based on the heading?
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But radar has nothing to do with noise or... I know that the German "Boot's" had a limited angle on their radar, a sort of 30-45 dgr "static" arc in front of the boat. I guess the American system was different as they developed radar together with the Britt's.
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Could it be that they wanted to restrict the radar based on the sub's prop noise and instead what they did was restrict it based on the heading?
Berry,

Good question . But prop noise wouldn't restrict radar, mast obstruction would.

It does bring up another point though ... In my original post I mentioned that there was a 21'st entry found, only with BearingMin/Max info. Perhaps this is the heading restriction the program supposed to read and compare it with other parameter's. I dunno.

I think their intention was to simulate the actual beam width.
The SJ H.P. beam width:
Horizontal 9 degrees.
Vertical 29 degrees.

This coincides somewhat with the ElevationMin=357.5 Max=30, SweepArc=9.

Elevation Min/Max numbers for even the sonar show 0 and 360, which makes sense, but not observed as a bug since it covered 360 degree's of the sub heading.

Radar # 16,17, and 18 have bearing restrictions, which, if I'm right, means that three boat classes had mast assembies that blocked radar coverage, not because of prop noise. Both the SJ and I-SJ was located on the front on the mast assembly so as it rotated through, say between 150-210, it might have stopped radiating because the lobe would interfere with the SD (jamming) or reflected energy could "burn" the watch crew!! . The SJ on the earlier boats might not have had a problem. I'd have to physically look.

It's really a mystery about what's going on.

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Could it be that they wanted to restrict the radar based on the sub's prop noise and instead what they did was restrict it based on the heading?
Berry,

Good question . But prop noise wouldn't restrict radar, mast obstruction would.
Well the question is, does the developer in charge of implementing radar know that? If not, then he could easily have tried to put in a radar that had a blind spot at 180 degrees bearing (i.e. behind the boat) and accidentally put in a blind spot at 180 degrees on the compass (i.e. South). It's not a question of what restricts radar - it's a question of what the developer might have been thinking when he made the feature.
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Gosh Redwine, you are smart! I have tried but still no luck with the radar!!

My buttons in the orders bar for sonar and radar do not function.

There is no mention of radar and sonar not being able to be used by the player untill late in the game in the manual, note that the crew makes the radar work. The player just can not use it.

Why did Ubisoft release the game with such obvious glitch's??
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Redwine,
could you please make a new modified file for 1.2? This is one of those that got modified by the patch. Thank you so much.
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Try Using the tweak file settings in the first page of this thread (search as apposed to absolute), and use redwine's section descriptions from his old tweakfile. Pretty sure that will work. Id have done it already but ran out of time before work.
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Okay Ducimus, I'm taking the plunge. The only question I have for you or Redwine is what exactly is meant by "all SJ or SD entries?" Some of the entries say "SJ Improved?" with the question mark at the end. Just to be safe, which entries should I leave alone? For now I have changed every entry that contains SJ or SD anywhere in the line. I will hold off from using this file until I'm sure.
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Never mind, in a moment of sobri . . . er, I mean brilliance, I opened the tweak file while having the version 1.1 Sensors_sub_US.sim in the USSubParts folder. I got to see that indeed every line with any mention of SJ or SD was altered. Cool.

I then put the original version 1.2 file back and put my altered one in my MODS folder so I can use JSGME to enable it.

Give me a minute and I will post the altered/modded version in a JSGME compatible format. I'll be sure to credit the original author.
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Redwine,
could you please make a new modified file for 1.2? This is one of those that got modified by the patch. Thank you so much.
Hi...

Sorry, i didnt seen your request, i need to check fior a new Tweaker file !

I was so busy reintalling all mods !

Use private messaje if i dont see a request...
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Mmmh..

NSS_LateSJ_Antenna as

ElevationMax=360

by default...

is it correct ?

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For now I changed all the SJ and SD entries (including those Antena ones) to ElevationMax=181. I'll try it out tonight.
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