Mod Soup - it's confusing!

[Spectre-63]

Hi all -

just got SH5 thru Amazon last week and I'm dying to get into the game. Unfortunately, the making of my own flavor of 'mod soup' has me perplexed.

Goals:
English voices - my german sucks!
SH3-like experience to lower the learning curve
Manual TDC, but not the 'full real' (i.e. RealNAV, super hard AI, etc) for now.

Here's what I came up with as a mod list based upon Trevally's excellent Mod Guide for Beginners:

MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
Capthelms_SH5_Audio_Mod
Speech fixes and additions (english version)
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
Dynamic Environment SH5 Basemod (normal ) V2.1
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
FX_Update_0_0_19_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_37_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_2_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_2_0_ERM_Reaper7_NightVision
NewUIs_TDC_7_2_0_jimimadrids_map_tools
MRP 16x9 ratio
Depth_Keeping_Problem_HB_2_0_0_TheDarkWraith
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbances_v2_0_SH5
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2
sobers no footstep sound mod
Trevally TDC Help v2

Unfortunately, I got a CTD loading that list and without an error or an error log, I don't know where the issue lies.

Also, another point of confusion: where during the mod process should the .exe mods take place? I've made the changes using TDW's patcher, but I've read some threads which seemed to indicate that something needed to be added in JSGME as well? Does it matter when you make the mods to the .exe?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated as my fumbling around is getting me a whole-lotta nowhere.

Thx,

Mike

just remember in the future that "mod soup" is a term used to refer to a problem with a group of mods used together that are causing issues.

sometimes i see the term being used as a new name for the almost common place lists of dozens of mods we feel are needed for the game but calling it "mod soup" will confuse people so i just wanted to point this out to you and others who look at this thread

[Spectre-63]

Originally Posted by Webster

just remember in the future that "mod soup" is a term used to refer to a problem with a group of mods used together that are causing issues.

sometimes i see the term being used as a new name for the almost common place lists of dozens of mods we feel are needed for the game but calling it "mod soup" will confuse people so i just wanted to point this out to you and others who look at this thread

well, as of last night it is causing a problem - the list above won't load.

[finchOU]

Editing the User Options File using the App should be done when New UIs by TDW MOD is NOT activated.

I'm not sure about your order...you can compare it to my mod list in my Signature. I've had to tweak it here and there (with suggestions of others) to make it work.

[Trevally.]

Try installing only a few at a time. Then try a new career. If all OK add a few more and test with a new career each time.

[Spectre-63]

Thanks guys -

any input on when/how the .exe mods should be done?

[Trevally.]

At the end

[Spectre-63]

Okay...going to do a fresh install and retry tonight.

[Fifi]

You should try this order, and add the yellow lines IMO

Dynamic Environment SH5 Basemod (normal ) V2.1
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
FX_Update_0_0_21_ByTheDarkWraith
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
Capthelms_SH5_Audio_Mod
Speech fixes and additions (english version)
NewUIs_TDC_7_2_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_2_0_ERM_Reaper7_NightVision
NewUIs_TDC_7_2_0_jimimadrids_map_tools
MRP 16x9 ratio
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2
OHII v2 Mission Fix WA
Depth_Keeping_Problem_HB_2_0_0_TheDarkWraith
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbances_v2_0_SH5
sobers no footstep sound mod
Trevally TDC Help v2

[Spectre-63]

Thankx Fifi - I'll get the updated version of IRAI and FX Update and try it!

[limkol]

Do we still need TDW Water Disturbances? Did I read that it was included in TDW's IRAI or FX Update? Or is it me that's remembering wrong?......it wouldn't be the first time

[Fifi]

That's right.
No need for DC water disturbances with IRAI (i asked not long ago)
No need for depth keeping problem either...

[limkol]

Thanks Fifi. Just woke up about half an hour ago, so I wasn't sure if I had dreamt that about Water Disturbances or if I had read it somewhere

[Spectre-63]

Thanks all! I actually got in the game and had enough time to play a little bit in the Balkan Sea...I'm questioning the wisdom of entering an British controlled harbor at the moment, as the manual TDC process is different enough in SH5 that I'm having problems adjusting.

But at least it's running!!!

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by Spectre-63

Thanks all! I actually got in the game and had enough time to play a little bit in the Balkan Sea...I'm questioning the wisdom of entering an British controlled harbor at the moment, as the manual TDC process is different enough in SH5 that I'm having problems adjusting.

But at least it's running!!!

Glad you got it working
Sink em all