Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Rockstar]

Send the weapons Macron! Come on do it Macron make it happen. You gave Ukraine permission now send Ukraine the long range cruise missiles. Let’s see how fast this war between Russia and Ukraine spills over into a war Europe is not in anyway prepared to handle.

I imagine their first defense would be to blame the U.S. But hey if you all feel the need to strike inside Russian territory you go right ahead and deal with the
consequences. I live on the other side of the ocean won’t bother me a bit. Good luck

[Skybird]

So much for the US Taiwan defence "pact".

[Rockstar]

One thing at a time. China is not ready to go to war over Taiwan yet.

In addition to Europe and Taiwan we got enough on our plate trying to keep the shipping lanes open in the Red Sea thanks a screwed Middle East policy.

[Skybird]

So thinks you. China sees that the longer China waits the more small smart weapons now will get poured into Taiwan.


They will attack sooner rather than later.



Also, Xi does not get younger. And they have their jubilee soon.



But I was about ppointing at what your claims about Ukraine imply for the US promises for Taiwan. If your country's policy follows indeed your thinking, you will not come to Taiwan's defence, and since your military strength looses small bits of ground to China with every month passing by, this does not make thingb slook any brighter. Nor would you honour article 5 of the NATO treaty.


Thats what your statement's inner logic imply.



In other words, US reputation and trustworthiness is done - if you were right.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

So thinks you. China sees that the longer China waits the more small smart weapons now will get poured into Taiwan.


They will attack sooner rather than later.



Also, Xi does not get younger. And they have their jubilee soon.



But I was about ppointing at what your claims about Ukraine imply for the US promises for Taiwan. If your country's policy follows indeed your thinking, you will not come to Taiwan's defence, and since your military strength looses small bits of ground to China with every month passing by, this does not make thingb slook any brighter. Nor would you honour article 5 of the NATO treaty.


Thats what your statement's inner logic imply.



In other words, US reputation and trustworthiness is done - if you were right.

While Macron and Scholz were suckin Putin’s hind teet.
We and a few others came to Ukraines defense back in 2014 and began arming and training their soldiers and we have been with them ever since, at the same trying to ensure it doesn’t turn into a direct conflict between Russia and NATO . Something those two fair weather heroes Macron & Scholz suddenly seem eager to start..

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

While Macron and Scholz were suckin Putin’s hind tit.
We and a few others came to Ukraines defense back in 2014 and began arming and training their soldiers and we have been with them ever since, at the same trying to ensure it doesn’t turn into a direct conflict between Russia and NATO . Something those two fair weather heroes Macron & Scholz suddenly seem eager to start..

Putin is an toothless tiger who's only strength is to roar highly

He is not going to start some war against a NATO member.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Putin is an toothless tiger who's only strength is to roar highly

He is not going to start some war against a NATO member.

Markus

Then go right ahead tell Macron and Scholz to grow a pair and launch their long range armaments deep inside Russia. Just don't blame me if Russia responds in kind. Won’t bother me if they do, I don’t live there. As for me I trust the spooks and SecState and his minions to tell me who is and isn’t a toothless tiger and what the objectives are.

Let Russian troops be the ones to see Putin as the villain, panic, see the futility of their efforts, lose hope and flee. If you start bombing those people in the interior of Russia they will then begin to see you as the villain making it easy for Poutine to mobilize more meat assaults.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Then go right ahead tell Macron and Scholz to grow a pair and launch their long range armaments deep inside Russia. Just don't blame me if Russia responds in kind. Won’t bother me if they do, I don’t live there. As for me I trust the spooks and SecState to tell me who is and isn’t a toothless tiger and what the objectives are.

Let Russian troops be the ones to see Putin as the villain, panic, see the futility of their efforts, lose hope and flee. If you start bombing those people they see you as the villain making it easy for Poutine to mobilize more meat assaults.

They are not meant to hit civilian targets in Russia or industrial facilities-It's meant they have the right to hit targets from the border and 2-300 km into the Russian soil-Targets who's a threat to Ukraine/Kharkiv.

Ukraine is already attacking deep inside Russia with their drones

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

They are not meant to hit civilian targets in Russia or industrial facilities-It's meant they have the right to hit targets from the border and 2-300 km into the Russian soil-Targets who's a threat to Ukraine/Kharkiv.

Ukraine is already attacking deep inside Russia with their drones

Markus

We already do that. Though I don’t think out to 300 km that would likely mean HIMARS would have be on the border or in Russia and that ain’t likely to happen. Not even storm shadow model the Brit’s gave to Ukraine has that kind of range .

But maybe those blow hards Macron and Scholz have something to offer besides words.

[mapuc]

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Markus

I should also add that since Blinken has said on many occasions in the past we do not tell Ukraine what they can or cannot do. I was thinking that ATACMS and Storm Shadows will probably not be used anyway.

Ukraine has a truckload of S-2 & -300’s in their inventory and with slight modifications can use them to accurately strike ground targets. This would be in keeping with our objective of keeping the war between Ukraine and Russia.

There see that wasn’t so hard.