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Old 07-20-15, 06:34 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by Armistead View Post
Most are in nations that are controlled by more secular govts. The problem is we're dealing with a corrupt ideology, much like nazism, except it lives under the cover of religion. Through history it takes proper reindoctrination, but it can simply be done be freedom of religion, press, etc. Most Muslims don't follow the true tenants of Islam no more than Jews follow the OT. Somehow in the ME, Islam has to be reformed like other religions into a moderate self spiritualism.

This won't happen unless , like in other wars we become concerned for our very survival as a nation. The problem is we always wait until we pay dearly for it and one day playing this waiting game while such evil is on the march may cost us the end game.
Most Muslims aren't hardcore traditionalists and a lot of hardcore traditionalists, whilst medievalesque in our viewpoint, aren't members of Daesh or Al'Qaeda. In fact, one could make the arguement, and many Muslim leaders do, that Daesh and Al'Qaeda are not following the Qu'ran, in a manner in which many other organisations both religious and otherwise criticise their extremists for taking a simple idea further than intended.
So, let's say that you do declare war on Islam, do you really think that the people living in the secular nations will remain moderate? When you're killing people because of their religious choices, do you really think that other people of the same religion will just sit back and take it?
What drives a lot of young people to travel to Syria and join Daesh is the feeling that they do not belong in a western society, that no-one trusts them, that everyone assumes that because they are a Muslim they are automatically an extremist, that their religious choice is wrong and they are backward for taking it. That feeling of not belonging is then exploited by Daesh recruiters by offering them a place where they will belong, where they will not face that judgment and state monitoring, where their name will not cause 'national security alerts', and like any young person who doesn't feel like they belong, they will flock to somewhere where they feel like they will.
If you make their fears and feelings official by taking the course of action that you propose, then Daesh will not be able to cope with the amount of new recruits that they will receive and you will make an enemy of 1.57 billion people.
What you propose is essentially 21st century colonialism, and surely someone from America can work out the pitfalls involved in trying to force anything on a nation far away from your own?
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