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Skybird · 09-02-19, 06:09 PM

Sigh. The above ^perfectly illustrates why I am against general voting rights.

And sicne I explkained it in moire dtail repatrely in the past 2, 3 years, i cut it hsort this time. If you want to go deeper into the amyn highly valid arugments why most voters owe it to the common good to NOT vote and why the single voter is irrelevcant and decides no9 election by himself, you will need to investigate a bit deeper and spend some time and read one or two or three books, I once again recommend Jason Brennan, and when one searches the name in this forum, one can find some links to him I have set up in the past, and some texts by him. I cut it short for myself, sicne I do not want to dance the same dance all the time, and post this link as a starter only. I may disagree with the alternatives that Brennan (or Hoppe, for that reason) present, but his (their) diagnosis of the rotten state democracy is in (and always inevitably must lead to by its core essence and nature) , is 100% on target, there is nothing I object to.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...out-to-be.html

Again, Brennan, like Hoppe, is a brilliant (and entertaining) diagnostician. His prescribed antidots are open for discussion, however. and he admits that himself. Just not stikcing tot he old failed ways, but triyng new ones on small scale to see whether they work, and if so,then widening them, that is his idea.

You will not change a corrupt regime by playing the game by its corrupted rules and believing its corrupted propaganda. The only way is to force it from outside its rules to leave and run away, by boycotting its claim for authority, and disobeying the fat cats' demands by which they protect their own careers and interests. If you do not understands that,k that is another arument in itsel fthen why you shouzd iot be allowed to vote. because you add active harm to the community and the common good. And reason anyway.

Politics today do not work for the common good, they workkr for the actor's own good. Party interest and political actors' interest goes before communal and national interest. You can see it everywhere. In Germany. In Britain. In the US. In France. In the EU. In china. In Russia. And voters fall for it.

Every. Single. Time.

They disqualify themselves for being able to vote. Hobbits, Brennan calls them.

Its not about "escaping the majority". That too, yes, but that ius not the core when refusing to vcote. Itd about deligitimizing a system itself. Once turnout is down to below 5% or less, no "winner" can claim anymore to represent anmd stand for anythign or anyone in society. Thats why I always post just voting results that are standardised against the voting turnout - to show what a small fraction of society the big winners indeed are only standing for. Their demand to swing the clubs of power, is illegitimate from all beginning on. They are ursurpers. They want to play in the casino of powerpoltics for their own win, but they use the others' money to pay the bets. The self-understanding behind this reminds of the era of absolutism and serfdom.

09-02-19, 06:09 PM	#815
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,606 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Sigh. The above ^perfectly illustrates why I am against general voting rights. And sicne I explkained it in moire dtail repatrely in the past 2, 3 years, i cut it hsort this time. If you want to go deeper into the amyn highly valid arugments why most voters owe it to the common good to NOT vote and why the single voter is irrelevcant and decides no9 election by himself, you will need to investigate a bit deeper and spend some time and read one or two or three books, I once again recommend Jason Brennan, and when one searches the name in this forum, one can find some links to him I have set up in the past, and some texts by him. I cut it short for myself, sicne I do not want to dance the same dance all the time, and post this link as a starter only. I may disagree with the alternatives that Brennan (or Hoppe, for that reason) present, but his (their) diagnosis of the rotten state democracy is in (and always inevitably must lead to by its core essence and nature) , is 100% on target, there is nothing I object to. https://www.pastemagazine.com/articl...out-to-be.html Again, Brennan, like Hoppe, is a brilliant (and entertaining) diagnostician. His prescribed antidots are open for discussion, however. and he admits that himself. Just not stikcing tot he old failed ways, but triyng new ones on small scale to see whether they work, and if so,then widening them, that is his idea. You will not change a corrupt regime by playing the game by its corrupted rules and believing its corrupted propaganda. The only way is to force it from outside its rules to leave and run away, by boycotting its claim for authority, and disobeying the fat cats' demands by which they protect their own careers and interests. If you do not understands that,k that is another arument in itsel fthen why you shouzd iot be allowed to vote. because you add active harm to the community and the common good. And reason anyway. Politics today do not work for the common good, they workkr for the actor's own good. Party interest and political actors' interest goes before communal and national interest. You can see it everywhere. In Germany. In Britain. In the US. In France. In the EU. In china. In Russia. And voters fall for it. Every. Single. Time. They disqualify themselves for being able to vote. Hobbits, Brennan calls them. Its not about "escaping the majority". That too, yes, but that ius not the core when refusing to vcote. Itd about deligitimizing a system itself. Once turnout is down to below 5% or less, no "winner" can claim anymore to represent anmd stand for anythign or anyone in society. Thats why I always post just voting results that are standardised against the voting turnout - to show what a small fraction of society the big winners indeed are only standing for. Their demand to swing the clubs of power, is illegitimate from all beginning on. They are ursurpers. They want to play in the casino of powerpoltics for their own win, but they use the others' money to pay the bets. The self-understanding behind this reminds of the era of absolutism and serfdom. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.