i don't let people look over my shoulder it just happens living with a nosy 15 year old younger brother is just one of those things when i am hunting on SH3 i loose perspective of everything around me, I imagine SHO would be the same way. any ways i would have to read the NDA to see what one could get away with and they arent as bullet proof as you think they look bullet proof. as to changing peoples minds well lets just face it looking at most of the subsim.com postings about SHO it appears we overwhelmingly think it will be CR@9 due to SH5 and a much lesser extent SH4
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