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Old 06-11-23, 12:46 PM   #5535
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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco View Post
so, this is a first: we took damage from a depth charge attack. almost all of the equipment in the control room was damaged as well as the forward compartments including the battery and the sonar/hydrophone.

every piece of equipment was repaired according to the systems screen however, the next interaction we had with enemy shipping, it was discovered that we could not longer detect shipping with our hydrophone. so, it seems, like the torpedo tubes, that there is a piece of equipment that is undocumented but still damagable, that can prevent the hydrophones from working.

i am going to save-exit-reload and see if that fixes it, just in case this is a SH4 "feature".

p.s. save-exit-reload did not re-enable the hydrophone, so it must be damaged beyond repair.
i looked at the S-42 upc and there is only two pieces of equipment: the listening gear set and the passive sound head (ball) and both have an entry in the system's equipment display.

question: where would one find the undocumented piece of hydrophone equipment that was damaged beyond repair but is not to be seen during play, if it is not in the UPC file?
That "sound ball" entry is for the equipment inside the boat though, so imagine the cables and crank handle for the "focus" (it it had one). The ball itself outside can can be taken away (same with the JP), and the game cannot / does not show that damage on your screen. This is like the external torpedo doors, the rudder, etc. Try an external camera view, and see if the ball is still there. I have had one taken away once after we were partially rammed by a merchant off of Attu back when.


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pb, why is there no message of base transfer for an S-boat from Milne Harbour to Dutch Harbour in late November 1943?
Purposeful. There are too many single boat transfers to keep up with. We do have a message about any new bases being prepped, and then when they are ready for use, or when a base is being abandoned you usually get two messages. There is nothing that says you can't stop and top-off at Midway or Pearl when enroute, though they won't even so much as patch a periscope leak for you for some reason... should be able to receive emergency repairs at ANY base capable - alas not so - this is SH4 after all...


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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco View Post
i was driving a S-42 boat late November 1943.
while on patrol, we took horrific damage, 87%, and still managed to make it back to port, although we had to go the long way to get there (Milne to Dutch Harbour).

upon arrival we were given the choice of ending our naval career or taking a new command. we took the latter. imagine our surprise when our new command was a S-18 boat!

and....our late-1943 S-Boat came with the original conning tower and not with the January 1943 conning tower. Go figure...

now, i have to say at this time that all boats share the same Upgrade Class, but i am still in wonder at the choice that SH4 made for a replacement.

i suspect that the S-18 will be retired early in 1944 so it will be interesting to see what choice, if any, will be able when that happens.
That set of circumstances is due to the "construction" of the base at Dutch Harbor. The only boats available are an S-42 or an S-18, and they both come and go as time passes. When you come in with a damaged boat, and the game decides (roll of the dice) to give you a "new command" like that, it will take the next available upgrade active at the base you dock at. That being not available there, it will then downgrade your boat, which gives you the S-18 instead. As for the conn, the S-18 is one cycle behind the S-42 in that regard, so you should have the 2nd conn with the AA platform, just like having a new start with the boat. The S-18 is suppose to transfer out 1943-12-21 to Pearl Harbor, so you might have issues if it is 1944 already, and end up without any home port after your next patrol. The S-42 transfers out to Pearl on 1944-01-12. If you are allowed to go out with the 18, you might be transferred immediately to Pearl, where it will stay the duration there (very un-historically), and do the usual PH patrols available for the time period. You can of course, transfer anywhere else the boat is available, but there are fewer and fewer S-18 and 42 equipped bases as time marches onwards. Same with the Porpoise.
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