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Oberon · 02-20-17, 09:11 PM

You think Rome might recall its Legions? Not yet, but if the US gets involved in a big war elsewhere...like China for example, then the Legions might have to get recalled.
As for why the US should defend Europe, well it's down to spheres of influence really, isn't it? The EU, like it or not, has always been in the US SOI, there have been some overlapping in Eastern Europe between the EU SOI and Russias SOI and part of that is what caused the Ukrainian war, and may yet start one in Belarus.
If the US unilaterally withdraws from Europe and goes into pre-WWI mode, then there's two options, either the EU gets strong enough to stand on its own two feet, or it falls under Russian SOI...given how things have been going with the rise of the far-right and the resurgence of nationalism in Europe my money would be on the latter, starting with the Eastern European states and slowly extending eastward into Germany. The UK would probably stay under the US SOI because we're Washingtons lapdogs, but Germany eastward would be screwed. France would probably just try to stay neutral and Spain...who knows what Spain would do.
So, that's a lot of economic, military and manpower falling under the Russian SOI, and the US's place in the world becomes a much less secure thing...it goes from being the only superpower to being a regional power, much like China. Without Europe to transition through, it gets harder to reach Middle Eastern fronts, so they get abandoned...Israel goes even further to the right and may go full Samson if the Middle East ever got organised enough to do something about Israel, although chances are the Iran/Saudi war would go nuclear before then, and then it would likely wind up with Israel retaliating on both of them after they send a handful of missiles to Israel which will Iron Dome them. Oil prices go to Mars and Russia becomes incredibly rich, which means it can pimp out its armed forces to Soviet levels, and start exherting political power abroad further than Syria...to Africa and South America perhaps.

Sooner or later, the US is faced with the reality that isolating itself was a stupid maneuver, and now the rest of the world is re-arranging itself into a post-American power bloc structure, and the rest of the world together is a lot stronger than America on its lonesome. At around this point things then go down the toilet 1941 style.

02-20-17, 09:11 PM	#58
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	You think Rome might recall its Legions? Not yet, but if the US gets involved in a big war elsewhere...like China for example, then the Legions might have to get recalled. As for why the US should defend Europe, well it's down to spheres of influence really, isn't it? The EU, like it or not, has always been in the US SOI, there have been some overlapping in Eastern Europe between the EU SOI and Russias SOI and part of that is what caused the Ukrainian war, and may yet start one in Belarus. If the US unilaterally withdraws from Europe and goes into pre-WWI mode, then there's two options, either the EU gets strong enough to stand on its own two feet, or it falls under Russian SOI...given how things have been going with the rise of the far-right and the resurgence of nationalism in Europe my money would be on the latter, starting with the Eastern European states and slowly extending eastward into Germany. The UK would probably stay under the US SOI because we're Washingtons lapdogs, but Germany eastward would be screwed. France would probably just try to stay neutral and Spain...who knows what Spain would do. So, that's a lot of economic, military and manpower falling under the Russian SOI, and the US's place in the world becomes a much less secure thing...it goes from being the only superpower to being a regional power, much like China. Without Europe to transition through, it gets harder to reach Middle Eastern fronts, so they get abandoned...Israel goes even further to the right and may go full Samson if the Middle East ever got organised enough to do something about Israel, although chances are the Iran/Saudi war would go nuclear before then, and then it would likely wind up with Israel retaliating on both of them after they send a handful of missiles to Israel which will Iron Dome them. Oil prices go to Mars and Russia becomes incredibly rich, which means it can pimp out its armed forces to Soviet levels, and start exherting political power abroad further than Syria...to Africa and South America perhaps. Sooner or later, the US is faced with the reality that isolating itself was a stupid maneuver, and now the rest of the world is re-arranging itself into a post-American power bloc structure, and the rest of the world together is a lot stronger than America on its lonesome. At around this point things then go down the toilet 1941 style.