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Old 03-31-23, 01:48 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Ostfriese View Post
Well, schools aren't prisons, and they aren't designed as such for a reason: to make the children not feel like a prisoner. OK, who cares about children's feelings, anyway?
More importantly: all the easily available entryways you want to seal of are at the same time easily available exits. Your idea of creating chokepoints to make it difficult to get into the building also make it difficult to get out of the building, like during a fire.
And most importantly: in most cases of mass shootings the perpetrators know their targets very well, and they have found ways to get in despite hardened security.
You're making several assumptions, the biggest one being you think that the only way to secure a schools perimeter is to make it a prison. Well airports don't look like prisons, neither do banks yet both places would be extremely difficult targets for a mass shooter.

Your second assumption is that stronger doors and entryways create choke points. It doesn't have to be that way either. It's easy to make doors and windows that are difficult to open from the outside but a snap to open from the inside. Crash bars and electronic strikes. I've put in dozens of them. The only way they don't help is if somebody props one open like what happened in Ulvade.

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"Arming teachers" is like the typical American answer to guns: "More guns". That has never worked before.
Says you. How many school shootings have there been in states where teachers can carry? None. Think about it.
Why didn't this latest nut not pick the other schools on her list? Too difficult because of police presence and difficulty getting into the school.

Same reason for both. Mass shooters like any other criminal shy away from hardened targets. Ever wonder why mass shootings ONLY happen in "gun free" zones?

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And with all of this you are only fighting the symptoms, of course, but not the underlying problems, which -I admit- are much more complex to identify, let alone addressing them.
Here we can agree. Our society has created a generation of narcissistic sociopaths. That is going to reverberate in our society for decades.
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