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Old 09-29-16, 02:16 PM   #6009
Lanzfeld
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Passive sonar on surface?

I posted this in the AI thread but wanted to get some opinions from here as well.

OK I have been testing the artificial intelligence in the wolves of steel mod with all the cheats on so I can see how the AI are detecting me. What I discovered I would like to bring to light because I'm not sure it's accurate or realistic at all.

I am in a campaign mission outside of a convoy that is escorted by two destroyers. It is mid-1940s so there is no radar. My AI cheats (drawn circles on the map ) show that I am entering the zone where the AI can hear me with its sonar/hydrophones when [B]Im on the surface[B] in 15 m/s wind at one third power from 4300 meters away at night! Granted there is no fog at all but there is overcast and we are talking at night with 15 m/s wind.

Now maybe on a calm, still night with maybe some fog A destroyer MIGHT be able to hear me from a dead stop if it wasn't making any engine noise itself and I was very close and high-power but certainly not from a destroyer with its own engine noises and certainly not from 4300 meters away!

I didn't think that the destroyers passive sonar was capable of detecting submarines on the surface just like as if they were underwater.

So I tested some more and waited until heavy fog. The destroyer had no problem following me around in the zero visibility and I have to guess it was only my engine noises on the surface. This is rather absurd. He couldn't see me because outside his vision circle and I was on the surface and I couldn't see him.

Can this be adjusted? I just don't find it feasible that a submarine engine on the surface could be heard from 4300 m away at one third power in 15 m/s wind.

Thoughts?
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