you know what i realized, ive been apart of this forum for over three years that i can remember. ive read alot of steves stuff and used some of his add ons, ship names and such for SH3. i look back on these things and see them and the Subsim family differently from 3 to 5 years ago. some of us have left and not returned and some have pulled through real life issues and continued to come back and post. i find this amazing and reading this reminded me of that. i figured id share that and to let all of you know its a pleasure.