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Originally Posted by Mios 4Me
Serious kudos on getting the dual 5"/25 bow-and-stern guns operational. Not sure how I missed the announcement, but it was a very nice surprise.
Are the second gun crew's abilities a mirror of the first?
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Originally Posted by Mios 4Me
Normally, yes; however....
I have both 5"/25 guns in place and firing as ordered, and am capable of firing the fore gun myself with no delays in reloading. However, the fore gun is operating without any visible crew members - just like my twin 40 mms have only one gunner present - and there are no gun crew spaces on the crew management page for either the fore gun or the second gunner's position on either 40 mm.
Where the program is drawing the ghost crewmembers' attributes is a mystery.
I don't mind this a bit; I'm just curious and imagine it will be addressed by Mazzi's solution in the next update, though I'm not sure that applies to the 40 mm issue.
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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco
the second guns crews' abilities will be unique for each crewman.
you will have to assign specific crew to man each weapon.
if you choose to man only one weapon but use the same crew then the abilities would be the same. however, if you decide to attack a target with both weapons, you will have to have crew to man both weapons and their skill will be indicated by the GUNS skills of each crewman.
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Under normal circumstances with say a Sargo boat, what KaleunMarco says would stand. If you look at especially the guns in FotRSU for the Balao and Tench, the guns that precede the boat's "active" time period are not part of the boats' definitions. Logically thinking, why would they be? The boat comes out in July 1943, why would you put the 3" gun in the boats equipment, and use more data space in the mod? I have not looked at stock in this regard yet, but other mods besides FotRSU do this.
But with what mazzi said, and his fix, applying that 3" gun to the Balao and Tench both, now both boats upgrade properly. I have done the same with the radar equipment, but had not done a full set of that yet, but the preliminary testing in the Balao does indeed show proper "upgrades". As to whether they function as intended, I have not had enough time on them yet. But previously, the Balao started with the Improved SJ, and did not have a "standard" SJ listing. When a player would get the ST Periscope radar, their radar range fell to 4-6000 yards, and while that works for a submerged submarine with their radar array exposed, it does NOT function as well as a skipper would want when surfaced, expecting a 16-20k yard range. That should have been "fixed" for the Balao last round, quite by accident, but it did function in testing prior to the 1.26p release. The Tench was not touched.
At this time, s7rikeback and I are going through the files, and he is trying to match the eqp files to the upc files, such that a player knows what they'll get & when, while I'm going through the upc files and adding any missing equipment from day one of the game. The deck guns, AA guns, sonar, hydrophones, surface radar, and air search radar all would probably have a similar "front-end", even though there are three different sections of the game that handle deck guns, AA guns, and submarine equipment... We'll see how well this works in a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by Moonlight
An Hospital ship is designated as a Type13=Auxiliary Ship in fotrs and would display a blue sonar line, that should make it a valid target to attack me thinks. Can Mr beanie confirm if this is the case and its definitely classed as a Type13 and its not a typo, if it is true then you've stuck 2 fingers up to the Geneva conventions rules of engagement wotsit. 
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A hospital ship though, is a hospital ship. As such, skippers, no matter how good they were at their jobs, were court-martialed and punished, both for sinking neutrals and for sinking hospital ships. Case in point:
The Awa Maru 1945
The ship departed Singapore on March 28, but on April 1 was intercepted late at night in the Taiwan Strait by the American submarine USS Queenfish (SS-393), which mistook her for a destroyer. The Awa Maru was sailing as a hospital ship under the protection of the Red Cross, and under the agreed rules, she disclosed to the Allies the route she would take back to Japan. Her original route was promulgated through a minefield, an apparent ruse to draw attackers into the mined area. The area was known as mined, and would have been avoided at any rate. Her final route avoided the mines.
The torpedoes of the Queenfish sank the ship. Only one of the 2,004 passengers and crew, Kantora Shimoda, survived. He was the Captain's personal steward, and it was the third time in which he was the sole survivor of a torpedoed ship. The commanding officer of the Queenfish, Commander Charles Elliott Loughlin was ordered by Admiral Ernest King to an immediate general court-martial. As the Awa Maru sank "she was carrying a cargo of rubber, lead, tin, and sugar. Seventeen hundred merchant seamen and 80 first-class passengers, all survivors of ship sinkings, were being transported from Singapore to Japan.…[The] survivor said no Red Cross supplies were aboard, they having been previously unloaded."
Aftermath
Commander Loughlin was found guilty of negligence, and the U.S. Government offered, via neutral Switzerland to replace the Awa Maru with a similar ship. Japan demanded full indemnification.
On the very day of Japan's surrender, 14 August 1945, Foreign Minister Togo forwarded a message to the United States through Bern, Switzerland, demanding payment of 196,115,000 yen ($45 million) for the loss of 2,003 lives; 30,370,000 yen ($7.25 million) for the goods aboard the Awa Maru; and various other claims, for a total demand of 227,286,600 yen or approximately $52.5 million.…No gold bullion is mentioned in the message.
The Japanese bill was never paid, and in 1949 the matter was closed.
There are several sources for the story, including Silent Victory, with one story mentioning that Loughlin was immediately removed from service with the Executive Officer then assuming command of the boat. I do not find that in any "historical" stories of the incident, but maybe it did happen, I do not know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Loughlin
Technically NOT a hospital ship, it had been given free passage as such... A very interesting, unfortunate story. Lockwood did take blame for it also.