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Jimbuna · 11-28-22, 09:17 AM

EU will help Ukraine survive winter in conditions of electricity shortage, - Borrell

EU leaders will discuss measures to further help Ukraine prepare for a winter of power shortages as Russian invaders continue to destroy Ukraine’s critical civilian infrastructure.

This was announced by EU High Representative Josep Borrell, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"He, Putin, continues to bomb Ukraine. Putin continues his attempts to turn Ukraine into a black hole - without light, without electricity, without heat - to condemn Ukrainians to darkness and cold. So we must continue our support, provide Ukraine with more materials to face this winter without electricity. This means many things, from electrical installations to anything you may need to survive this winter without electricity. It's hard to imagine, but that's exactly what happens. So today we have to look at the (Russian. - Ed.) war in Ukraine from the perspective of a humanitarian crisis," he said.

Borrell said that during the meeting, the ministers will consider the situation in Ukraine and Afghanistan, but the main focus of the discussion will be on the situation in Africa and the development of relations between the EU and the African Union. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383452

Heads of foreign affairs of Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, and Sweden arrived in Kyiv. PHOTOS

The foreign ministers of Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway and Sweden arrived in Kyiv.

This was reported by the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Latvia, Edgar Rinkevich, Censor.NET reports.

"The ministers of foreign affairs of the Northern Baltic countries are visiting Kyiv and meeting with the highest officials of Ukraine, this is the largest group of ministers who have visited Ukraine since the beginning of Russian aggression. The main question is how to further support Ukraine," the message reads. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383466

NATO does not have ban on transfer of heavy equipment to Ukraine, - Ambassador of Poland to Alliance, Shatkowski

There is no agreement in NATO that prohibits the transfer of modern tanks, missile defense/air defense systems and other heavy equipment to Ukraine.

As reported by Censor.NET with reference to LIGA.net, this was stated by Polish Ambassador to NATO Tomasz Szatkowski.

"In the public space, from public speakers in Berlin, we often heard in recent months that there is some kind of agreement between NATO members that, for example, heavy equipment should not be transferred, and then - that tanks should not be transferred, then - "maybe tanks and it is possible, but not of Western production"... This is absolutely false," the diplomat explained.

Also, "it was a surprise to assume", the ambassador noted, that it is the Alliance that should decide, and not Berlin alone, whether to give Patriot anti-aircraft batteries to the military of Ukraine.

Shatkowski recalled the words of NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who said that in some cases it is more important for the security of the member states of the Alliance to transfer equipment and ammunition to Ukraine than to accumulate them in their own warehouses.

Meanwhile, Shatkowski described the situation in NATO regarding military support to Ukraine as "Schrödinger's cat": "On the one hand, there is a discussion, it (help. - Ed.) is encouraged by the Secretary-General, and on the other hand there is a veto of some countries, opposition, and reluctance."

At the same time, the attitude of some countries towards the support of the Armed Forces is changing for the better, the ambassador noted, pointing out that "a positive transformation has taken place" with part of the allies in the south of Europe.

Shatkowski also noted that France, which is often criticized, is generally the only country, apart from Poland, that supplies the Armed Forces with entire artillery systems: "It means not only what shoots, but also the fire control system, effective ammunition." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383470

Council of Ministers of OSCE will meet for first time without representative of Russian Federation

The meeting should take place in the Polish city of Lodz on December 1 and 2.

As Censor.NET informs, this was announced by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba.

As he noted, the Council of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe will meet for the first time without the participation of a representative from Russia.

"And this is correct. There is nothing for him to do. They are only simulating negotiations. They are only simulating diplomacy. But in fact, they have made their choice: this choice is war and war crimes," the minister emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383484

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,284 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	EU will help Ukraine survive winter in conditions of electricity shortage, - Borrell EU leaders will discuss measures to further help Ukraine prepare for a winter of power shortages as Russian invaders continue to destroy Ukraine’s critical civilian infrastructure. This was announced by EU High Representative Josep Borrell, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform. "He, Putin, continues to bomb Ukraine. Putin continues his attempts to turn Ukraine into a black hole - without light, without electricity, without heat - to condemn Ukrainians to darkness and cold. So we must continue our support, provide Ukraine with more materials to face this winter without electricity. This means many things, from electrical installations to anything you may need to survive this winter without electricity. It's hard to imagine, but that's exactly what happens. So today we have to look at the (Russian. - Ed.) war in Ukraine from the perspective of a humanitarian crisis," he said. Borrell said that during the meeting, the ministers will consider the situation in Ukraine and Afghanistan, but the main focus of the discussion will be on the situation in Africa and the development of relations between the EU and the African Union. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383452 Heads of foreign affairs of Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, and Sweden arrived in Kyiv. PHOTOS The foreign ministers of Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway and Sweden arrived in Kyiv. This was reported by the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Latvia, Edgar Rinkevich, Censor.NET reports. "The ministers of foreign affairs of the Northern Baltic countries are visiting Kyiv and meeting with the highest officials of Ukraine, this is the largest group of ministers who have visited Ukraine since the beginning of Russian aggression. The main question is how to further support Ukraine," the message reads. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383466 NATO does not have ban on transfer of heavy equipment to Ukraine, - Ambassador of Poland to Alliance, Shatkowski There is no agreement in NATO that prohibits the transfer of modern tanks, missile defense/air defense systems and other heavy equipment to Ukraine. As reported by Censor.NET with reference to LIGA.net, this was stated by Polish Ambassador to NATO Tomasz Szatkowski. "In the public space, from public speakers in Berlin, we often heard in recent months that there is some kind of agreement between NATO members that, for example, heavy equipment should not be transferred, and then - that tanks should not be transferred, then - "maybe tanks and it is possible, but not of Western production"... This is absolutely false," the diplomat explained. Also, "it was a surprise to assume", the ambassador noted, that it is the Alliance that should decide, and not Berlin alone, whether to give Patriot anti-aircraft batteries to the military of Ukraine. Shatkowski recalled the words of NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who said that in some cases it is more important for the security of the member states of the Alliance to transfer equipment and ammunition to Ukraine than to accumulate them in their own warehouses. Meanwhile, Shatkowski described the situation in NATO regarding military support to Ukraine as "Schrödinger's cat": "On the one hand, there is a discussion, it (help. - Ed.) is encouraged by the Secretary-General, and on the other hand there is a veto of some countries, opposition, and reluctance." At the same time, the attitude of some countries towards the support of the Armed Forces is changing for the better, the ambassador noted, pointing out that "a positive transformation has taken place" with part of the allies in the south of Europe. Shatkowski also noted that France, which is often criticized, is generally the only country, apart from Poland, that supplies the Armed Forces with entire artillery systems: "It means not only what shoots, but also the fire control system, effective ammunition." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383470 Council of Ministers of OSCE will meet for first time without representative of Russian Federation The meeting should take place in the Polish city of Lodz on December 1 and 2. As Censor.NET informs, this was announced by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmytro Kuleba. As he noted, the Council of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe will meet for the first time without the participation of a representative from Russia. "And this is correct. There is nothing for him to do. They are only simulating negotiations. They are only simulating diplomacy. But in fact, they have made their choice: this choice is war and war crimes," the minister emphasized. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3383484 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)