I agree with Horsa up to a point. I liked the SHII/DC graphics, especially the fog, and of course the multiplay was the best, as far as subsims go. The point where I draw the line is the campaign structure. Even with the great new campaigns from you modders it still got old fast for me. I would rather play AOD; it's the unknowable future that keeps me going. The lack of randomness is what kills SHII for me.
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