[Skybird]

^ Old now. (The crews of the AMX usually also got killed, where as the Leopard and Bradley crews usually escape, shaken, but alive. Some months ago there was feedback that the Ukrainians absolutely love the German Marder for its robustness - that "outdated" old Marder, who would have guessed so... ).

And its the HT - beware.

The truth is that tank-on-tank combat is virtually non-existent in this war, and so many of the typical superiority features for which the Wetsern modenr tanks were designed do not apply. Against artillery and missiles and mines all tanks are vulnerable, Western and Eastenr, modern and old ones alike. But if taken out, the survivability chance for the crew is much higher in modern Western tanks.

Truth also is that apparently the rate of Ukrainain losses is climbing again, they are apparently stuck in sequential and singular actions instead of simultaneously conducted combined-arms warfare, critits say. Thsi criticism sticks around since longer tiome now so that I assume there is something true in it.