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Old 07-27-23, 01:32 PM   #110
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Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
Which is why I wrote:
Best way to overcome it now is to place troops in the back of the fortified russian lines, like Germany did with the Maginot line.
Drop paratroops and attack them from the rear. AFAIK night vision equipment is scarce on the russian side.
If you think of Air Cav on helicpoters, they would get shot out of the sky when crossing the front, the Russians have both air superioity on that region and heavy missile density, both ATGMs and manpads/SAMs. If you think of people hanging on parachutes, their transport planes again again are object of Russian missile fire, and yo can trnapdort only a very thin and oight force that way becasue the Ukrianian air force, including trnapsdorts,m is extremely seriously decimated. Bringing troops into the rear of the Russians, the Ukrainians showed the possibly only way: small special commandos and very small troop contingents crossing the frontline under stealth.
This is not Market Garden!



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edit spoke with some german officers and as has been posted before somewhere here they criticize the ukrainian tactics, lacking combined operations despite them having trained exactly that.
Don't know what is going on, maybe it takes more time to let it sink in(?)
I posted it, yes. The BW complained about the trained lower rank soldiers get back to Ukraine and then come under command of higher ranks that then run Sovjet doctrine commando regimes again, or trained troops climb up the ranks and then get their own commando, but are then forced to fall into the bigger picture and again must ignore their traning and instead practice Swvjet battle drill doctrine. And the treianignt iem was very shoret anyway. The bulk of the ukrianian army seems to be no longer - or neve rhas been - capable to practice NATO's combined arms doctrine, were things must be orchestrated fast and simultaneously and aggressively and troops, and artillery and air power all work together at the same time. The criticism is that the ukrainians do everything one step after the other, and one unit by one unit. The units of all armed forces in locaiton and the variosu weapon branches are not interlocked, their actions are not coordinated fpr simultaneously. The exact opposite of combined arms. Its high arts of warfare, obviously it cannot be learned by a whole army in just a few weeks.





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