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Old 07-10-19, 02:04 AM   #756
ikalugin
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Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
^ so what? You want to hear that Russia has more of all military-wise and would be able to win a territorial conflict?
Granted.
Does thinking like that help to promote a civilian society in Russia?

Then of course there is the doctrine path, like "if you attack with whatever means our answer will be nuclear".
No one seems to be interested in a war, in Europe. Of course Trotsky said "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."
Nah, we suffer from much of the same problems, though not quite at the same scale, you can for example compare Kiev loyalist losses to our yearly tank modernisation rates, etc.

Military thinking contributes to civil society building by ensuring our sovereighnity. You can see for example what western interference in elections and other democratic processes did with Russia with the example of Yeltsin's second term.

That doctrine path indeed does exist (and may be applicable to Europeans if they stand alone, though Germans do not have nukes) but currently it mostly applies to Russia (due to US being in NATO), even though we are trying to move away from it by developing stronger conventional forces.
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