D'oh... I've managed make a fool of myself again.
I hate making mistakes... I shouldn't have posted in this thread at all.
Self confidence takes another hit.
Sorry, I usually only read these discussions you people have, if participating as you've witnessed I forget about other things, make myself look dumber (don't know if that's the right word I'm looking for) than I am. I'm not really comfortable with social interaction with people I don't know, I get insecure. But I guess it's good to practice.
I should've stuck to "not getting into debates", it only goes bad.
Sorry, I'll stay clear in the future.