[Rockin Robbins]

So it is as I said. There WAS NO GERMAN PLANE to copy, just a bunch of wind tunnel tests on models and some drawings.

That is a pretty snazzy drawing But other than that it has swept wings, that short, fat pig of a plane with no apparent operational purpose bears no resemblance to the MIG 15 or Sabre. If you're correct he Russians built the MIG 15 and we copied the general layout of the planform from the RUSSIAN, not a German plane.

At no time were either the Russians or Americans playing catch-up to some infinitely better German plane and having to copy it. In fact there was no plane to copy other than the ME 163 explode on landing "superplane" and the ME 262, accelerate so slowly that conventional planes have to fly CAP over airfields so the sitting ducks don't get shot down, superplane. With superior planes like that the Germans didn't need help losing the war from a counterproductive fleet of submarines. At least the U-Boats worked.

The Germans could have done much better by shutting down wasteful U-Boats and "superplanes" and just building a gazillion FW 190s. And what's the deal with building escorts and not building long range bombers with payload capacities that at least beat our P-47 Thunderbolt. They launched the Battle of Britain and could only overfly a third of Britain! How stupid was that? You know, everybody is entitled to one fatal mistake. The Germans in WWII made dozens of fatal mistakes. Any ONE of them would have spelled defeat. Guess they just wanted to make sure.

Important edit: Guess it was mostly He wanted to make sure. The average German wasn't consulted or there might not have been a war to begin with.