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XabbaRus 07-12-09 03:48 PM

Looking to build a decent PC in a budget
 
OK looking to build a new PC budget is £500 to £600

Now I'm looking for advice and links to good places to buy would be great but I don't want to be bombarded with multiple different options.

Here is what I need.

New Case
New MOBO
New CPU
New HDD
New DVD/RW
New RAM of course
New Tx

I'll be reusing my nVIDIA GFX card which is PCI-e Maybe not the fastest card on the block now but it is the one thing I can forgo getting straight away since the only game I will be playing on it is IL-2 1946.

Although it is a family computer the aim is that I will be able to Play Battle of Britain : Storm of War at high options settings when it is released.

I have built a PC before so I can do that.

One other thing is Intel only...not keen on AMD and undecided whether to go Core 2 Duo or Quad core.

Cheers for your help. Purchasing will be done in stages, getting the bits as I can afford it. Though certain things I'll be buying together.

I'm sure I can build a decent PC good enough to go 6 or so years and still be able to play future flight sims coming out in that time.

My current PC is 5 to 6 years old and can still hack it like I said with IL-2 on fullish settings, but for BOB:SOW and Black Shark it will struggle.....

Task Force 07-12-09 05:05 PM

I myself use a e8400, its a good processor, or you could go to the 8500, but thats cause I use duel core, always have.

umm... ive had good experience with my antec 900... keeps my 8800 cool.

I use a asus MoBo have had no issues.

Kaleun 07-13-09 02:14 PM

hi,

I know it's not building your own - but i saw this whilst browsing overclockers, and it's in your budget and is a stonking gaming rig for the money (but it is AMD)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=FS-180-OK

Kaleun

porphy 07-13-09 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XabbaRus (Post 1133059)

My current PC is 5 to 6 years old and can still hack it like I said with IL-2 on fullish settings, but for BOB:SOW and Black Shark it will struggle.....

If you are ok with running IL2 as it is now, I would hold of and wait for the actual release of BOB:SOW. The closer to the release of the sim, the better hardware you will get for the money. And you will know a bit more of what it will take to run it in a good way.

If you want to run BS right now, and turn on full settings in IL2 I can see why you want to build a new PC pronto. But if BOB is the main event, I would hold my breath a bit longer. (although no one really knows for how long... :) )

cheers Porphy

Task Force 07-13-09 04:11 PM

yea, the 200 series cards prices should be dropping once the 3xx series cards come out.:yep: if they do.

XabbaRus 07-20-09 03:32 PM

OK looking at a Core 2 Duo E8400 or E8500

Quad core is out of the question.

Now what Mobo should I get. I'm going to get an Intel chipset mobo for maximum compatibility.

SUBMAN1 07-20-09 08:10 PM

Why is a quad core out of the question? You can buy one for $150 easy.

-S

Task Force 07-20-09 08:14 PM

im currently useing a p5k deluxe... it has been good to me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131182

The CPU I use.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037

SUBMAN1 07-20-09 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1137594)
im currently useing a p5k deluxe... it has been good to me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131182

The CPU I use.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115037

Bah! Old technology that is overpriced for being as under performing as it is. Not picking on your CPU since you probably bought it when it was hot, but why invest in 1 to 2 year old technology? It is so sacrilegious to me that I'd almost offer up the difference for an i7 920 just to feel good that he didn't buy into something that won't last! :nope: If I knew him personally, I probably would!

The games coming that are making use of heavy physics will dedicate a core on a quad to physics alone. People with dual cores will get reduced fun. :damn:

-S

FIREWALL 07-20-09 10:19 PM

TigerDirect has good deals cpu\mobo bundles.

Also case\psu deals.

XabbaRus 07-21-09 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1137587)
Why is a quad core out of the question? You can buy one for $150 easy.

-S

Well I was on DABS.com and overclockers.co.uk and Core Quads are £250

XabbaRus 07-21-09 11:03 AM

OK I said I wanted to keep this simple. I am on a budget looking £500-600

I'm looking for clear realistic recommendations, not turning into a poo-pooing the other guys choice of CPU/mobo what ever.

I can't afford a quad core unless someone can get a good one to me for about £150

FIREWALL 07-21-09 11:54 AM

If TigerDirect isn't available to you I still say look for a cpu\mobo bundle deal.

Also a case\psu bundle deal.

Arclight 07-21-09 02:42 PM

I'd say get a P45 board (preferably PCI-e 2.0), throw in 2x2GB DDR2 (4-4-4-12 if possible) and a decent dual-core. If DDR3 is a must, you'd best go with i7, but that would likely ramp up the price, meaning you need to cut corners on other stuff, if it's doable on that budget at all.

GigaByte is always a good choice for boards, but they're expensive. Kingston offers good modules for a good price with maximum compatibility and a lifetime waranty, no strings attached.

Over here, a E8400 costs about the same as an Q8400 (!) (just under 150,- euros). For 10 to 15 more, you have a Q9400 (just under 165,- euros).

Get a case to your liking, make sure it has a decent (preferably good) PSU.

There, simple.



But...

You mentioned Black Shark. At the moment, single core speed is very important for it, since it doesn't support multi-cores. You can enable it through the OS (set affinity for the process to all cores), but it's less than ideal. With upcoming modules, there should be native support for multi-core and multi-threading. Since your primary focus is flight-sims, I'd say a quad is mandatory, especially with future releases. Since not all sims can use multi-cores effectively, especially older ones, you'll want a fast one at that for high speed per core.

(flight) sims are heavy on the CPU. You want a good one. :yep:

Task Force 07-21-09 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight (Post 1138033)
I'd say get a P45 board (preferably PCI-e 2.0), throw in 2x2GB DDR2 (4-4-4-12 if possible) and a decent dual-core. If DDR3 is a must, you'd best go with i7, but that would likely ramp up the price, meaning you need to cut corners on other stuff, if it's doable on that budget at all.

GigaByte is always a good choice for boards, but they're expensive. Kingston offers good modules for a good price with maximum compatibility and a lifetime waranty, no strings attached.

Over here, a E8400 costs about the same as an Q8400 (!) (just under 150,- euros). For 10 to 15 more, you have a Q9400 (just under 165,- euros).

Get a case to your liking, make sure it has a decent (preferably good) PSU.

There, simple.



But...

You mentioned Black Shark. At the moment, single core speed is very important for it, since it doesn't support multi-cores. You can enable it through the OS (set affinity for the process to all cores), but it's less than ideal. With upcoming modules, there should be native support for multi-core and multi-threading. Since your primary focus is flight-sims, I'd say a quad is mandatory, especially with future releases. Since not all sims can use multi-cores effectively, especially older ones, you'll want a fast one at that for high speed per core.

(flight) sims are heavy on the CPU. You want a good one. :yep:

someone has made a program that allows you to run 2 cpus in dcs blackshark.


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