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FeatsOfStrength 02-06-22 05:06 AM

Question re: Diesel used in U-Boats and Ships in general during WW2
 
I am doing a review of the (god awful) 2018 remake of Das Boot, there is a scene in the TV Show where the U-Boat comes across a small ship which they board and then use it's fuel to refuel the Diesel on their submarine.

Would this have even been possible though? as far as I know historically this wouldn't have happened as when a U-Boat was short on Fuel a rendezvous with either a German Fuel carrier like the Belchen, a Milch Cow or another returning Submarine that had fuel to spare was arranged via radio.

I was under the impression that most standard merchant/engined ships of the time either used coal or Ship Fuel, which is I think a cruder type of oil than Diesel and wouldn't work properly in a U-Boats engine?

Can anyone give me any information on whether standard Ship Fuel from the 1940's would be usable in a U-Boat or if there are any examples of U-Boats taking fuel from non-German ships?

Kapitan 02-07-22 10:48 PM

From a purely engineering standpoint a diesel engine will run on almost any type of oil, indeed the first diesel engine ran on peanut oil, and I often at the time I had run my 2008 Mitsubishi Warrior on vegetable oil.

By the time world war two came about there were very few coal fired ships in operation, oil was more efficient cheaper and less man power intensive, quicker at refueling in port and most coal ships were refitted in the 1920s to run on oil fired boilers.

Is it possible that a U boat could run on this? yes its entirely possible but running on low grade fuels often results in injector problems as well as clogs in the fuel filters all of which plagued the U boats in the later part of the war.

Current day warships use F76 or Bunker C fuel oil the Russians use Mazut the oil fuels need pre heating before being cycled into the filters and then into the engine, I am pretty sure the U boats would have had heat exchangers in the fuel tanks to pre heat the fuel this is very common in all oil fired ships.

FeatsOfStrength 02-13-22 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan (Post 2792286)
From a purely engineering standpoint a diesel engine will run on almost any type of oil, indeed the first diesel engine ran on peanut oil, and I often at the time I had run my 2008 Mitsubishi Warrior on vegetable oil.

By the time world war two came about there were very few coal fired ships in operation, oil was more efficient cheaper and less man power intensive, quicker at refueling in port and most coal ships were refitted in the 1920s to run on oil fired boilers.

Is it possible that a U boat could run on this? yes its entirely possible but running on low grade fuels often results in injector problems as well as clogs in the fuel filters all of which plagued the U boats in the later part of the war.

Current day warships use F76 or Bunker C fuel oil the Russians use Mazut the oil fuels need pre heating before being cycled into the filters and then into the engine, I am pretty sure the U boats would have had heat exchangers in the fuel tanks to pre heat the fuel this is very common in all oil fired ships.

Thanks, this was very helpful


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