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Skybird 04-08-22 07:39 PM

The MicroProse thread
 
I found out that there is more activity around the relaunch of this brand than I was aware of so far.

Much of their stuff in development seems to seek its seat in this wide gap there is between ultra-high end simulators of today, and super simple action games of today. I think that is extremely clever, and also true to its legacy. As some youtube comment put it: lets have something between DCS and Ace Combat.

I will post in loose order and randomly and occasionally, and he who has his own info and material, can post it too, of course - its not "my thread", but "ours". Also, historic stuff is welcomed. Most of us have had good memories with this and that MP game, haven't we. And boy, there were so many good titles of theirs.

Why is it that just the sound of the name - MicroProse - already gives me a good feeling again? :03:

Lets get started with something old, something new...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKVBCNWxhlY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi-9YJXzzJo

Otto Harkaman 04-08-22 08:48 PM

loved European Air War

Skybird 04-09-22 08:48 AM

Oh look, Tiny Combat Arena already is out in early Access, since six weeks or so. 16-17 coins, reviews at Steam "Sehr positiv" (615). Currently a bit bare in content, but its EA. I mst admit, I like what I see, this is promising potential.

And if you think about the hilarious prices for high end graphics boards you maybe get some immunity from that against mocking the simple looks of the game. It looks like the typical old MicroProse flight sim games from the 90s beefed up to today's standard. And from Carrier Command 2 experience I must say that these graphics can work quite well and immersive if the rest of the game sucks you into its world.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNpacNbjzAg

Skybird 04-09-22 09:34 AM

Ground Branch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuBDjrtWdvI

Skybird 04-09-22 09:36 AM

Sea Power (status update). Coming this year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A7NoyHSmxU

Skybird 04-09-22 09:47 AM

Second Front. Coming this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxZxvX6KBbg

Skybird 04-09-22 09:52 AM

Regiments. Coming this year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui7MNFk0eSM

Andreas86 04-09-22 11:16 AM

Really looking forward to Regiments and Sea Power, I just hope they will live up to the high expectations that follows the revival of such a legendary brand as MicroProse. I mean, any rich fool could buy the brand but we must remember that this does not avoid the fact that MicroProse 2022 has absolutely nothing to do with the company we know from back then. Regiments seems from the previews to rely much on flash and graphics. I am on the fence for now, but really miss MicroProse so I want them to succeed of course.

Actually we had middle-road games that were just like what you describe, they were called Wings over Vietnam, Wings over Europe, Wings over Israel, The updated re-releases under the Strike Fighters 2 umbrella, North Atlantic, etc. And they were the work of TK, one of the guys behind European Air War. Those games found a nice balance between sim and game, and were fun to play. Not Falcon 4.0 but enough sim elements to please. A huge shame they weren't developed further. Now its only mobile games and arcade it seems from ThirdWire.

Skybird 04-09-22 01:23 PM

Yes, there is a wide open middle ground, between excessive simualtiors like DCS, and total arcade. Thats why I have good hopes for the Microprose titles, I have the impression their lineup mpostly really aims for that kjiddoe ground and really tries to connect to the kind of simulation level the old MP titles had.

I just did not know until recently that they have so very, very many titles in the making. And I have not even mentioned all of them so far.

And there are three other titles not by Microprose that i also have on the watchlist: Sherman, Destroyer, Tank Squad, and especially GHPC! . Oooops, thats four, not three.

Andreas86 04-09-22 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2802840)
Thats why I have good hopes for the Microprose titles, I have the impression their lineup mpostly really aims for that kjiddoe ground and really tries to connect to the kind of simulation level the old MP titles had.

I just did not know until recently that they have so very, very many titles in the making. And I have not even mentioned all of them so far.

And there are three other titles not by Microprose that i also have on the watchlist: Sherman, Destroyer, Tank Squad, and especially GHPC! . Oooops, thats four, not three.


I hope so too, lets cross our fingers they don't bite over too much too early though.

Excited about the new B-17 game also! By the way, have you played the old C64 game Destroyer Escort by Microprose / MicroPlay? Its actually one of my favourite destroyer / sub hunter games, very playable and fun. It got many things right, and was quite deep even with the limitations of the C64. I think many modern games could learn a lot from its simplicity and fun gameplay. That would make for a nice remake!

Skybird 04-10-22 04:35 AM

No, I jumped from a VC-20 to Amiga directly. And back then i was not into naval games that much anyway. Harpoon and Silent Service 2 on Amiga changed that.

Skybird 08-01-22 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2802787)
Regiments. Coming this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui7MNFk0eSM


Now a release date: in two weeks, August 16th.

Amiral Crapaud 08-11-22 01:11 AM

Quote:

I will post in loose order and randomly and occasionally, and he who has his own info and material, can post it too, of course - its not "my thread", but "ours".
I will oblige then :arrgh!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj-1gcNLSlY

Skybird 08-12-22 10:12 AM

^ Looks tasty!

Andreas86 08-16-22 02:41 AM

Not a good review for Regiments..

https://www.gosunoob.com/reviews/reg...an-escalation/

And when comparing screenshots on Steam with Regiments and the Wargame series / Warno from Eugen, I can see what they mean. Waiting on more reviews today.

Skybird 08-16-22 08:19 AM

I am downloading Regiments now. This guy has had a blast with it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azOkxwvDHjc

"If you are going to play a game this year in this genre, then this is the one to play. (...) I guess this will be one of the best releases this year."

I tried Warno, and refunded. Regiments, by the looks of it so far, reminds me of Armoured Brigade, just with better graphics and gameplay and probably lower realism. Regiments is no tactical simulation, but a RTS game.


Download almost completed. I'm off for the rest of the afternoon. :)

UglyMowgli 08-16-22 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas86 (Post 2823197)
Not a good review for Regiments..

https://www.gosunoob.com/reviews/reg...an-escalation/

And when comparing screenshots on Steam with Regiments and the Wargame series / Warno from Eugen, I can see what they mean. Waiting on more reviews today.


Well the guy who wrote the review didn't seem to have played with Regiments.
Saying that the AI is "feeble" is a nonsense.
A clone of Wargames! Really, if you just look at the screenshot maybe, everything else is different.


For me an another review by someone who didn't play it and he is not a wargamer (seeing his other reviews, I can confirm).

Skybird 08-16-22 02:31 PM

Okay, my first impressions. I like it. Very. That means something, because usually I do not like RTS, its too hectic and too much work overload.

The world looks nice in this game. The letter size in the onscreen menu is way too small for me, in a bid to keep the interface small, though, but the general handling is good.

The general flow of what is happening is - AWESOME! I like it, it is plenty of fun, and has something very satisfying. Just do not mistake this with a realistic taccis simulator. Zooming and moving the camera after short time is intuitive, and fast, that allows to quickly get close to the action. And you want to be close to the action at times, because the action can look quite spectacular.

Several skirmish modes, plus several campaigns, apparently scripted. The AI I cannot really judge, I saw too little of it, but what I saw, looked good enough to add the playing value for single players - because there is no multiplayer. Later addons or increased map and unit lists are planned.

It indeed reminds of Armoured Bridgade, but is faster, more action loaded, looks better, has faster pace. Its indeed mobile battles, I found myself moving back and fourth with units a lot, reminded me a bit of fencing. Defe3nd, scoot in, and when he starts to fight back, evade, start new. Really, there is satisfactioin in arrnagign the ballet of platoons and small formations.

First hotfix came quick when they found they had a biggie of an issue on board, it took them less than an hour after release to take it down

I will stay with it, I like it. Thats an exception from the rule, I avoid RTS, usually. I prefer turn based, usually, or first person perspective, whatever it is.

Thats why I put even bigger hopes into Second Front that will follow later this year.

Second MicroProse title I got, second good hit. And yes, it feels like 25 years back then again! :up: They are back, with plenty of activities and good quality so far. Long live the legacy - heritage obligates! :)


Another review form today. He too is very positive. And he too is full of praise for the "brutally good" AI.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NU7p1ezyiM

Andreas86 08-16-22 05:26 PM

I have it now, but my poor 2017 laptop is too weak to run it. Even though it is powerful for its time. Its like 3 fps at 1024x768 with everything turned down.

Skybird 08-16-22 05:55 PM

You can refund if playing time is not more than 2 hours.


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