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From what I've read, once they know you're there somewhere, about the only way to get them is to make them chase you, let them get close, and fire the stern tube. I really thought this one was chasing me, but it turned out otherwise. And I lost my nerve when it came to letting her get close enough. |
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entered a port last night, and "drew" a frigate from inside the port to the shore by running noisily. when the bugger was almost beached, i stuck my pericope out of the water, right next to it, looking at the crew. oh! there were two subs shooting our way, hitting the frigate hard... it sank within a minute, almost on top of my brandspanking new VII/b... reverse gear, full power got me out of trouble. Torpedoed both british subs, surfaced, and got me two cargoes and 5 fisherboats with torps, cannonshells and ack-ack :haha: The whole event lasted no more than 5 minutes... i probably killed 50 sailors and at least a dozen fishermen, plus the two submarine crews. got the iron cross second class for getting out again. But a good spanking for entering that damn port oin the first place! |
I r still not ded!
Sept 9 1939, 03:58
U-35, U-Flotilla Saltzwedel Oblt. Peter Schmidt, Commander Patrol 3 Departed: Wilhelmshaven Mission Orders: patrol grid BE31 Oct 3 1939, 11:23 Grid AN14: ship sunk, MV Boy Peter, small coal tender, 314 tons Oct 3 1939, 18:52 Grid AN11: ship sunk, Q ship HMS Chatsgrove, small freighter, 1974 tons Oct 4 1939, 12:36 Grid AM34: aircraft destroyed, Anson Oct 4 1939, 15:34 Grid AM33: aircraft destroyed, Anson Oct 6 1939, 13:32 Frid AM52: ship sunk, Q ship HMS Brutus, small freighter, 2364 tons Oct 7 1939, 03:52 Grid AM52: ship sunk, SS Elmbay, coastal freighter, 1869 tons Oct 7 1939, 09:49 Grid AM52: ship sunk, SS Tresillian, Granville-type freighter, 4708 tons Oct 8 1939, 01:58 Grid AM54: ship sunk, SS Wray Castle, Granville-type freighter, 4710 tons Oct 8 1939, 12:18 Grid AM54: ship sunk, SS Clan Ferguson, large merchant, 11484 tons Oct 16 1939, 14:40 Grid AM51: ship sunk, SS City of Brisbane, large merchant, 11485 tons Oct 22 1939, 09:07 Returned: Wilhelmshaven Crew losses: 0 Ships sunk: 8 Aircraft destroyed: 2 Patrol tonnage: 38908 tons Everybody but the three n00bs on board got the U-Boat War Badge as this marked the completion of our second combat patrol. Career tonnage to date: 61447 tons |
U37 IX(A). 2. Flotilla. Patrol 3.
D. 19.dec.39. 01.05.
Underway from Wilhelmshaven for Patrol Grid AM41. D. 21.dec.39. AN34. 03.02. Ship spotted. VCS (Variouse Courses and Speeds). 07.10. Coastal Merchant (2.003 GRT) Sunk. Course 280. 8 Knots. Night Surface Attack. 1 x G7A Torpedo. D. 27.dec.39. AE95. 17.27. ALARM! Crash Dive for Aircraft. D. 29.dec.39. AE89. 18.23. Sound Contact. Merchant. VCS. 19.17. Coastal Vessel Sighted. Wind 14 M/S. No attack made. D. 31.dec.39. AM16. 06.18. Radio Report. Convoy. AM17. East. 6 Knots. D. 1.jan.40. AM01. 05.35. Convoy Unfounded. D. 2.jan.40. AM41. 04.00. Arrive On Station. D. 4.jan.40. AM41. 11.24. Radio Report. Convoy. AL39. East. 6 Knots. D. 6.jan.40. AM29. 19.14. Convoy Unfounded. Heavy Fog. Remaining in area. D. 18.jan.40. AM29. 22.43. Radio Report. Convoy. AM01. East. 6 Knots. D. 19.jan.40. AM43. 05.31. Coastal Merchant (2.045 GRT) Sunk. Deck Gun. (Unrelated to Convoy). Convoy Unfounded AGAIN! (3 times now!) Enrout to AM53 and The North Channel. Desperate times call for desperate measures. He has to go there, and we WILL be waiting. D. 21.jan.40. AM53 (Southeast Corner - AM539) 08.00. Predawn dive. Total Depth 51 Meters. 12.22. Single Torpedo shot at Coastal Merchant. Miss. 15.00. Entering AM61. Total Depth 43 Meters. 23.20. Entering AM64 surfaced. Weather is Calm & Clear. D. 22.jan.40. AM64. 07.50. Predawn Dive. HEAVY FOG. SW of Firth Of Clyde Naval Base. 07.56. Sound Contacts. Multiple Merchants. Moving Away. 08.10. U-turn. 08.50. Both Stern Tubes fired on inbound merchant. Both miss in the fog. D. 23.jan.40. AM64. (still) 14.00. Sound Contact. Convoy. (Still HEAVY FOG). 15.18. Little Merchant (2.342 GRT) Sunk. Course 270. 6 Knots. HEAVY FOG. 4 Bow Tubes were emptied in attack. Three at the sunk ship. One independently. D. 25.jan.40. AM53. 21.51. Status Report Sent. 3 Ships. 6.390 GRT. D. 29.jan.40. AM01. 13.01. Radio Report. Convoy. AM19. East. 7 Knots. 13.45. Convoy Sighted. (Last 4 Torpedoes. I better make it good this time.) 16.42. C2 Cargo (6.452 GRT) Sunk. T2 Tanker (10.871 GRT) Sunk. Course 100. 7 Knots. 18.11. Status Report Sent. 5 Ships. 23.713 GRT. (Wow. Much better.) Homeward bound. D. 6.feb.40. AF74. 05.22. Diesel Reserves at 50%. D. 7.feb.40. AF78. 19.15. ALARM! Crash Dive for Aircraft. No DCs dropped. D. 13.feb.40. Docked at Wilhelmshaven, after almost 2 months at sea. Patrol Results: 5 Ships sunk for 23.713 GRT. 100% Hull Integrity. No crew losses. U37's Totals: 3 patrols. 12 ships sunk. 56.389 GRT. 100% Realism. Manual Targeting. No contacts on chart. |
I went and re-installed SH3 and started using GWX 3.0 + WSM 3.0 and started a campaign with a Scharnhorst Class Battlecruisers and just finished my third patrol and I attacked British warships and merchants.
Heres my patrol log from that patrol. CAPTAIN'S LOG Date and TimeLocation Occurrences 4.10.39.1203Patrol 3 U-45, U-Flotilla Weddigen Left at: October 4, 1939, 12:03 From: Wilhelmshaven Mission Orders: Patrol grid AN666.10.39.1813Grid AN 21Ship sunk! HMS Mohawk (Tribal class), 1850 tons. Crew: 260. Crew lost: 1358.10.39.0037Grid AM 53Ship sunk! HMS Alacrity (Black Swan class), 1250 tons. Crew: 212. Crew lost: 1610039Grid AM 53Ship sunk! HMS Magpie (Black Swan class), 1250 tons. Crew: 182. Crew lost: 250039Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Ocean Telegraph (Medium Cargo), 3988 tons. Cargo: Grain. Crew: 50. Crew lost: 240040Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS American Banker (Medium Cargo), 3986 tons. Cargo: Paper Products. Crew: 43. Crew lost: 70040Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Garesfield (Small Freighter), 1971 tons. Cargo: Wine/Spirits. Crew: 23. Crew lost: 40041Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Velma Lykes (Tramp Steamer), 1623 tons. Cargo: Machinery. Crew: 31. Crew lost: 200041Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Kilissi (Small Merchant), 2258 tons. Cargo: Tobacco. Crew: 37. Crew lost: 110042Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Asperity (Coastal Freighter), 1874 tons. Cargo: Grain. Crew: 33. Crew lost: 20043Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Burwah (Passenger/Cargo), 2259 tons. Cargo: Mail/Packages. Crew: 175. Crew lost: 190043Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Santa Barbara (Medium Cargo), 3987 tons. Cargo: Coffee. Crew: 48. Crew lost: 70044Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Adherity (Coastal Freighter), 1873 tons. Cargo: Coal. Crew: 32. Crew lost: 250044Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Capo Olmo (Granville-type Freighter), 4707 tons. Cargo: Bauxite. Crew: 105. Crew lost: 20045Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Santa Sofia (Medium Cargo), 3985 tons. Cargo: Textiles. Crew: 54. Crew lost: 350046Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Merida (Passenger/Cargo), 2267 tons. Cargo: Passengers. Crew: 66. Crew lost: 570050Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS A. M. Simpson (Coastal Freighter), 1872 tons. Cargo: Phosphates. Crew: 30. Crew lost: 30052Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SS Marie-Louise le Borgne (Coastal Freighter), 1875 tons. Cargo: Military Vehicles. Crew: 35. Crew lost: 210057Grid AM 53Ship sunk! SClass, 767 tons0509Grid AM 61Ship sunk! SS Port Brisbane (Ore Carrier), 8480 tons. Cargo: Phosphates. Crew: 74. Crew lost: 280538Grid AM 61Ship sunk! SS Prominent (Tramp Steamer), 1624 tons. Cargo: Grain. Crew: 34. Crew lost: 80908Grid AM 53Ship sunk! HMCS St. Laurent (C&D classes), 1375 tons. Crew: 162. Crew lost: 1181119Grid AM 52Ship sunk! SS Winona (Coastal Freighter), 1867 tons. Cargo: Scrap Metal. Crew: 22. Crew lost: 1911.10.39.1433Patrol results Crew losses: 0 Ships sunk: 22 Aircraft destroyed: 0 Patrol tonnage: 56988 tons |
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They are still tricky, though. When you get them chasing you like all hell's demons, there are those smart DD's that will weave in toward you. Just take your time and when the feeling is right, let that stern eel out. I try to anticipate where the two paths will meet. If it doesn't work, get under as far as you can and evade as the monster begins to roar over top of you. The dumb destroyers will make a straight run at you. Let the distance close to about 500 and fire your torpedo out under the bow of your pursuer. They won't have time to react. If you miss, however, they will evade and turn back to pursue again. That should give you a little bit of an edge in your evasion efforts. I still get a rush and a million thoughts of "What if...", which is good. Helps one survive. Just try to keep a level head and plan your next few steps while that ship gets closer and closer. As far as evasion goes, I spent nearly three hours realtime one night sneaking away from a desron that had pinned me down near Scapa Flow. We took a fair bucket of damage that night, but believe me when I say: Patience Pays Off. :DL |
Oh, I get it. When you get news of a convoy in the area, that's a warning to steam full steam away from its track, since there is a 100% chance that you will be detected before you can fire a shot?
That's how it works for me, every time. :nope::wah: |
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In one of my experiences, I came across a merchant fleet escorted by three destroyers and one Flower corvette. As I tracked the convoy I noticed that the lead and rear destroyers kept course and speed with the main body. The destroyer nearest me (on the right flank of the fleet), however, would be steaming along slowly with the rest of the other ships when, suddenly, it would lurch forward and begin weaving around in different directions, sometimes tracking within two klicks of our boat. As I watched this happening it dawned on me that the destroyer was performing a protective sweep, and as long as I kept my distance my boat would likely go unnoticed. That turned out to be true. Although we didn't score a major victory, we did manage to inflict some damage. I used to rush right into a fight, but anymore I tend to relax and get comfortable when I encounter a convoy. Take it slow and get a clear idea of what your enemy is doing, and when the moment is right, strike! I hope that helps. ;) |
@krashkart:
Thanks for the in-depth reply. That actually makes some sense... I'm probably concentrating too much on getting set up for the big kill, rather than keeping my distance from those gosh darned (dag jimmed? snap daggedy?) DDs. This last time was so frustrating, because I basically waited for the convoy to surround me, periscope down the whole time listening with hydrophones. I was about ready to finally have a look through the scope when, "The enemy is pinging us, sir." WHAT DID YOU SAY?! Maybe I was too close. Ahh, well. Tomorrow's another day, thanks again for the tips. |
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Im currently working on my first full realizm with Manual TDC career (bar external cam because i just love those epic screen shot opportunities) |
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Shooting from outside the distroyer screen can be quite effective early in the war but I find that it loses effectiveness as the war drags on and the ASW tech catches up to the ability of the u-boat. |
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Thanks a lot, y'all for the info... when I get off work I'm going to go track down that same convoy and try again. :salute: |
Just did my second patrol in my Type IIA as Leutnant (now Oberleutnant) z. See Hugo Stiglitz.
Departed Kiel on the 25th of September and made my way to my assigned grid (AN47). In AN66, I was attacked by a Swordfish, which I was amazed to see out there. Took only minor damage, though, and kept on my heading. Towards the end of my 24 hours in AN47, picked up a sound contact. Got a rough course and speed through constant bearing, so surfaced and ran until spotting her. She was a coastal freighter, and one magnetic pistol Type I sent her to the bottom in short order. Heading towards the coast, we spotted another coastal freighter. We shadowed this one at the extreme edge of visual range, getting her course from the Angriffscheibe and her speed from the constant bearing method. She was making 5 knots. As night fell, we overhauled her and turned in. She spotted us at about 2 kilometres (bright night, and we were not decks awash - I hate trying to run decks awash in a Type IIA). We closed to 500 and sent a medium-speed magnetic pistol under her keel, breaking her back. A small merchant came next. Shadowed her throughout the day, but as it was early and we would have reached the coast by nightfall, I made a submerged attack on her after overhauling. One magnetic pistol and she's at the bottom. Finally, we lucked out in spotting a large merchant at around midnight on the 3rd of October. The last two torpedoes blew up under her keel and broke her up on the surface. We docked with roughly 2000 renown, as well as an Iron Cross and a promotion for Hugo Stiglitz. |
Just had my first unexpected run-in with a enemy sub :O
11, November 1941 East of ireland, about 04:25 I picked her up on the hydrophone while making a routine dive to about 20m to scan for sound contacts... When i hear the un mistakeable sound of a surfaced submarine... carefully tracking her for about 40 minutes i had a confident understanding of her course and moved in to aquire a visual. After about an hour I aquired her at less then 1,500M rocking in rough seas. Carefully checking my TDC I set the torpedo run depth to zero and fired away... First shot cleared her bow made a quick dirty adjustment to target speed and fired again from about 900m... She went down fast. this is the first time i have EVER seen a lone sub in the waters of SH3.. ever, just kinda wandering about on it's own. with this endevor completed im headed back to base with only 1 eel in the stern tube |
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