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In theory, the game should pick wind speeds for each climate zone/season combination from the corresponding min/max windspeed parameters set in climate weather cfg files, each cfg file corresponding to a particular climate zone. In vanilla game min and max wind speeds are always set to 1 and 15 respectively, irrespective of climate zone and season. In Dynamic Environment we narrowed down this range, in an effort to create more variotion between different climate areas and seasons by actually reducing intra-seasonal/intra-zonal variation. Since nowhere in game files wind speeds higher than 15 m/s are set, TDW's patch should take no effect unless weather cfg files are set to allow higher wind speeds than the stock 15 m/s. If those parameters were applied correctly, (and not, as guess, bypassed), we wouldn't be forced to use the maximum theoretical wind speed of 60 m/s: we could rather set the maxwindspeed parameter of the windiest climate zones/seasons to a more reasonable 20 or 30 m/s. There is more: as rightly noted by you, wind-related wave parameters are set in seaparameters.cfg file. If I remember correctly the vanilla cfg file contains settings for 0, 5, 10 and 15 m/s wind speeds, but one could add/remove any set of windspeed parameters, as far as the two stock extremes (0 and 15 m/s) are represented into the file. Parameters for missing wind speeds are simply interpolated from available data. Now my question is: where does the game get data for wind speeds higher than 15 m/s, since all the available wave mods have 15 m/s as their maximum wind speed? I once asked TDW for clarifications, but I never received an answer to my doubts. :hmmm: |
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I could actually resume my modding activity anytime soon: I have just recently bought a new laptop. I haven't installed SH5 and the relevant modding utilities yet, but a 2.4 GHz 5th generation i7 processor (of the low power consumpion version though), 16 GB of RAM, and a GeForce GTX 850M with 4 GB of dedicated RAM, should be enough for any gaming and modding purpose as far as games of the SH series are concened. :sunny: I just hope that Windows 8.1 won't come on the way: has anyone reported compatibility issues with SHIII, IV and 5? Quote:
This is how the KDB upgrade should have been set from the beginning, as having it as the sole listening gear would have made little sense in real life, and forced devs to some unrealistic settings. The two sensors being fitted together also rules out the objection made by some players on the extreme vulnerability of the KDB, especially at depths higher than 150 m as correctly modelled in RSD. Someone even speculated that they would have carried some spare sensors aboard, but I don't think so: really the KDB was an extra sensor affected by some serious limitations, which was fitted just on a limited number boats, and used only sparingly when circumstances required/allowed for it. :know: Last but not least, your experience is showing us that the game is capable to handle more that one sensor of the same type fitted on a playable u-boat. I was thinking about adding some new RADAR's to the game: http://amp.rokket.biz/docs/an_illust...t_research.pdf I have the FuMB 26 - TUNIS already fully modelled and textured, and waiting for being imported in game... :03: Quote:
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PS. really glad to see u back gap :d i am a big fan of your graphics works |
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I wonder if there is a difference in the way VIIB and VIIC/41 are scripted in game, compared to other u-boat models... luckily there is an easy solution to this glitch. Quote:
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The game will randomly shift wind speeds between 0 and 60 m/s, pretty much the same like before between 0 and 15m/s. So, if you use stock separameters.cfg file you will always look in 15m/s waves because most of the time game will give you something like 20,35,48 ect m/s winds... Someone will say "great, we only have to set waves parameters in their cfg file to match 60 m/s hurricane winds" ...Wrong, because it just cant be done. If you try to set waves to higher and more extreme than what we have now with stock 15m/s waves, it will just look ridiculous and unrealistic and our sub will act really funny... Basically, TDW gave us tool to increase wind speed but it is not possible to set corresponding waves for resoulting wind speeds... |
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I start thinking that what TDW's patch actually does, is multiplying game-generated wind speeds by a fixed factor. The game engine will still think of wind speeds using the stock 1-15 values though. If, for instance, a certain weather zone/season combination has 5-15 m/s set as its windspeed range, the game will still throw the dices and pull a random number from the said range. Let's say it is a 10. At this point the code modified by TDW comes into the picture, multiplying 10 by a 4x factor, so that when we ask for a weather report, reported wind speed will be 40 and not 10 m/s. The game will still retain the 10 m/s figure though, and it will look for it in seaparameters.cfg file. When parameters for 10 m/s are read/interpolated from the said file, again TDW's code pops in, and multiplies some or all of the sea parameters in memory by a fixed factor (could be 4 again, or something else). These new parameters are the ones sent to SH5's graphic/phyisics engine to generate current waves. Does it sound plausible? This is the only way (that I can think of) TDW's patch could generate/handle wind speeds higher than 15 m/s with no need of updates in cfg files from our part. If you are into it, I could device a set of cfg files aimed at testing my theory. :up: For a start: by any chance, are the wind speeds reported by navigator all multiple of four after enabling the 60 m/s wind speed patch? |
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I think that 60m/s patch doesn't interfere with wind speeds set in your env files but I cant be 100% sure. All in all, the patch isn't really useful so you shouldn't bothering your self with it... |
Offtopic and really sorry vdr1981
@gap heya m8 can u tell me how i can edit the map 4320_2160.raw file i wanna add time zone for real navigation :D on topic now i remember about and old discussion about with speed 60/s in fifi's tweak but i can not find that thread anymore :D |
I don't enable the zero waves patch either . I can never get them to look ok .
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Some theoretical considerations now; look at the following link: The Probability Distribution of Sea Surface Wind Speeds. Part I: Theory and SeaWinds Observations. Ignore the complicated calculations and skip to the graphs at p. 6. The first graph is representig average annual wind speeds at the sea level. As you can see, there are just a few spots on the world map where it exceeds 12 m/s. The second graph shows the annual deviation from mean wind speed, which on turn never exceeds ca. 5 m/s. By coupling this information with some basic statistics, we get that in the most extreme case (i.e. a theoretical spot on the map where the highest mean and highest standard deviation are coinciding), 84% of the times maximum wind speed won't exceed 17 m/s (= max. mean + 1 max. standard deviation), and 97.75% of the times it won't exceed 22 m/s (= max. mean + 2 max. standard deviations). Indeed this is ignoring skewness and kurtosis (3rd and 4th graphs) which are a measure of how asymmetrical a probability distribution is. Those factors can be simulated only partly in game, by setting different min-max wind speed ranges for each climate area based on season. Doing so would result in a slight increase of the maximum "likely" wind speed estimated above (i.e. not more than 22 m/s in 97.75% of the cases) for some seasons/areas; whence my proposed value of 25-30 m/s which, I repeat, would only apply to the windiest season of a few spots on the world map. A similar approach (it is: simulating asymmetrical wind speed distributions by introducing different max-min ranges for the same area, based on season) is already used in Dynamic Environment, within the 15 m/s limit imposed by the stock game, but increasing it reasonably would allow us to create more variability where needed/possible. Quote:
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I've been looking for where the Generic Patcher inserts the new values into the EnvSim.act but could not find the position offset, Offset=0x3BED8 and just realised why while writing this...because I'm an idiot! I don't have the patch enabled! :oops: From initial observations, it appears that the EnvSim.act contains the min and max values but calls up the various .cfg files and uses those values to assemble and present the overall environmental conditions for that particular scenario. This appears to be the same with .exe and .dll files as there appears to be no variable values in the assembly call ups. As Vdr was saying, to make this patch useable to it's full capability, the SeaParameters.cfg would have to be extensively reworked to make the waves etc look realistic as well as the m/s values for weather reports etc to name just a few. Off topic while looking through the SH5.exe searching for weather related entries, I came across the CO2 rate of change entry ~ the CO2 level increases 10x faster than is should on the analogue gauge in the control room. I'll find the controlling value one of these days and factor it by 10 :yep: CPU Disasm Address Hex dump Command Comments 0145AAF4 . 43 4F 32 4C 65 76 65 6C 49 6E 63 72 65 61 73 65 ASCII "CO2LevelIncrease" ; ASCII "CO2LevelIncreaseRate" CPU Disasm Address Hex dump Command Comments 0145AB04 . 52 61 74 65 00 ASCII "Rate",0 |
@gap only found this picture about wind speed at 0/ms and 60/ms in your dynamic env. thread and now some of my memories came back and all the discussion was DynEnv v2.9 - Wave Mechanics - Gale (Improved) now i am on page 1k on tdw's patcher hope that today i will find or read all pages from the patcher thread :D
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If I understood you correctly guys , you're trying to say that 30m/s patch would be more useful then 60m/s patch, right?
Still, I fail to see what could you actually accomplish with 30/60m/s that you already can't with stock wind settings??:06: Also, how would you solve fast moving smoke/clouds problem with patch enabled? Are you aware at all that 15m/s waves with stock seaparam.cfg (0,5,10,15) and 60m/s waves with modified seaparm. cfg (0,20,40,60) will actually look exactly the same??? We can continue like this forever but you'll understand what I'm trying to say when you do some testing for your self... Is that mighty laptop of your finally ready for sea trials Gap ???:D What's more important for me and the biggest problem actaully is the fact that almost all of your hard work on DynEnv is completely canceled with save/reload bug/limitation and actual weather in game appears completely random and stuck. Can we actually do something to bypass this problem?? |
By the way, patch/hotfix 4 is ready for download...
The Wolves of Steel 1.03 - Patch 5_HotFix 4 changelog: Snapshot changes: - Other tweaks: - Menu.txt: various tweaks to make crew reports more realistic. Watch crew will not be able to distinguish between troop transport and freighter. They are all merchants now. - Smaller New UI's teleport buttons - Init.aix: AI detection abilities - DBSM speech periscope sound - Increased number of days spent in the bunker from 14 to more realistic 25 - Fixed small issue in campaign.cfg files that can prevent few macro objectives to be date activated (space behind "=" mark) - Tweaked armor and HP values in zone.cfg file (from next RSD update) - Tweaked armor and HP values in submarines .zon files (from next RSD update) - Removed some of less important/duplicated and merged charts in order to meet 50 charts limit. - Less jumpy sub at lower wind speeds - Added few new sounds - torpedo tubes/opening ect... Added mods: - SD_MapLocationNameFix_v1_2 - RadcapricornLarge Optics No Milliradian Scale Binoculars - AilBubbles 1.0 - AilImpurity 1.2 - IO_MapCourseLine_sharp pencil_mod - autoscripts1.0_WOS_tuned - Sjizzle's - Charts for NewUIs part 5_23.05.2015 - sobers hud sounds V1 SH5 - SteelViking's Sky Banding Mod Removed mods: - Installation: 1. This is Hotfix is not cumulative so it has to be enabled with JSGME after The Wolves of Steel 1.03-Patch 5 and before optional patches. Your activated modlist should look like this: The Wolves of Steel 1.03 The Wolves of Steel 1.03 - Patch 5 The Wolves of Steel 1.03 - Patch 5_HotFix 4 The Wolves of Steel 1.03 - TDW Real Navigation *(optional mod) The Wolves of Steel - *x* Resolution Patch *(optional mod) You can remove The Wolves of Steel 1.03 - Patch 5_HotFix 3 from your JSGME * Enable hotfix in the bunker. * Some smaller changes will kick in after camping restart or after player's advance to the next campaign. * Grossdeutscher Rundfunk New Remix 1939-1945_CTD Fix is not needed anymore... |
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http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/Install.html RAW file format plugins for Paint.NET: http://paint.net.amihotornot.com.au/...Camera_Images/ http://forums.getpaint.net/index.php...-paintnet-403/ Hope it helps :) |
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