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propbeanie 10-23-22 11:24 AM

I just had to do a Steam re-install due to computer woes, and when I downloaded and installed the Steam app, I did my usual routine of NOT installing it in Program Files (x86). When I went to download and re-install SH5, I noticed on the install menu that there is now a "Install into" dropbox that looks like it might let me choose where to put the game... has anyone tried to use that, and does it eliminate the need to create a Steam Library folder that is not in a Program Files folder? Just curious. I am in the process still of wading into the shark infested Ubisoft Connect waters, and we'll see in a while how well I do getting TWoS going again... :arrgh!:

Edit 1206 hours: Game install completed, and it does run - it did take a bit of arm twisting to get Steam to run the game, but UConnect is updated also, and has all of my other Ubisoft downloaded games, as well as the Steam SH5... Here goes TWoS... :salute:

Edit 1615 hours: Piece of cake, nothing to it, easy-peasy - I must be getting used to the routine. No issue whatsoever with TWoS install:

https://i.imgur.com/kz1dURb.jpg

fitzcarraldo 10-23-22 02:33 PM

I have the DVD SH5 Gold installed, latest version of Ubi Connect, TWoS...and no problem starting game online mode with UC and saving and loading games from Ubi cloud. All is as ever in my installation.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

propbeanie 10-23-22 08:05 PM

Thank you vdr1981 for stopping by the other day - good to "see" you again, and thank you for the update you left with us! Now, if I could only get used to climbing the ladder to the bridge, and if when I "fall" down the ladder, at least make it to where I am not in the way of closing the hatch... :har: "Crash Dive!!! whoops! Look-out!!!" :salute:

craigt50 11-04-22 02:36 AM

Hi All,

I am new here, but a very long SH gamer (SH1!......giving my age away here).

So.....the images in the ID book have disappeared! Let me explain the process I have been through installing twos mod.

1. Clean install of Sh5 digital download unisoft
2. Patched the .exe sh5
3. Downloaded and installed TWOS full install 2.2.5 (off the top of my head).
4. Ran the patcher- all ok
5. Run the EXE as admin and using win 7 compat
6. Run game, Start new campaign everything runs perfectly

Now the issues Start.....

7. Close game
8. Open game, start saved game
9. ID book images show as just a white background, no ship images.
10. Repeat 7 8
11. I'd book images are totally gone, no white background

I have conformed the images are in the folders of the ships etc. I am totally lost on this!

Any ideas why this could be happening and now it can be resolved, I have never seen this issue before in any game.

Thank you all.

vdr1981 11-04-22 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigt50 (Post 2836196)
Hi All,

I am new here, but a very long SH gamer (SH1!......giving my age away here).

So.....the images in the ID book have disappeared! Let me explain the process I have been through installing twos mod.

1. Clean install of Sh5 digital download unisoft
2. Patched the .exe sh5
3. Downloaded and installed TWOS full install 2.2.5 (off the top of my head).
4. Ran the patcher- all ok
5. Run the EXE as admin and using win 7 compat
6. Run game, Start new campaign everything runs perfectly

Now the issues Start.....

7. Close game
8. Open game, start saved game
9. ID book images show as just a white background, no ship images.
10. Repeat 7 8
11. I'd book images are totally gone, no white background

I have conformed the images are in the folders of the ships etc. I am totally lost on this!

Any ideas why this could be happening and now it can be resolved, I have never seen this issue before in any game.

Thank you all.

Try to post few random screenshots of the problem. Also, delete everything SH5 related form "my documents" folder (including your Uconnect gameaves) and try to start new campaign.:yep:

Torpedo 11-07-22 02:24 AM

No UZO, no ID book
 
https://www.mediafire.com/view/id1uj...rotto.jpg/fileHi everyone! After some months I started playing with SH5 and installing TWOS 2.2.25. Last time I had TWOS 2.2.23 and Windows 10 and everything worked great. Now I have Windows 11 and I upgraded to 2.2.25 and it came up with 2 problems. I also tried to delete the SH5 folder to make a new career but the problems are always there:
1- ID book images show as just a white background, no ship images.
2- the UZO has a square display
I don't remember what file the UZO used to try to edit it.
I also tried to change the compatibility of SH5, but nothing to do.
However from what I have read in the forum I would not be the only one to have these problems.
Anyone have a solution in mind?
Thank you so much!

https://www.mediafire.com/view/id1uj...rotto.jpg/file

https://www.mediafire.com/view/id1uj...rotto.jpg/file

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/nrcyxs01/UZO-corrotto.jpg[/IMG]

Torpedo :k_confused:

JerseySeven 11-08-22 05:29 PM

Same problems here:
No image in recognition manual (see below for example) and square UZO (same as image shared in post above)



https://imgur.com/a/Ifj5xPS


Coming back to TWOS after about a year. Everything worked before. I've added no new mods. Only change is that I'm now on Win11, not Win10. Video driver is updated.


If I have to start a new campaign anyway, I'll use TWOS 2.2.25 and let you all know how it goes.



NVidia RTX 3080, GeForce 516.94.

Torpedo 11-08-22 08:35 PM

I tried different combinations to use TWoS with Windows 11 and with my desktop configuration, updated to drivers 526.47 with RTX2060S graphics card and 32 GB of Ram, the only valid combination for me is to use TWoS 2.2.23 and not 2.2.25 with Windows 7 compatibility.
With Windows 11 with my configuration there are too many instabilities in SH5 and in the recognition manual however only white background, no ship images even with version 2.2.23.
I've never had any problems with Windows 10!

Torpedo :k_confused::k_confused::k_confused:

JerseySeven 11-09-22 12:34 AM

-Changing NVIDIA drivers did not help.

-Starting a new campaign did not help.

-I went to vanilla SH5 and the UZO and recognition manuals were fine.

-I then made a clean install of SH5, and TWOS 2.2.25. The UZO is still square and all now, all white, and the recognition pictures pages are still blank.
-Must be a Win11 incompatibility. For now, I'll rely on my crew to recognize the ship type. I can still get mast height, length, and draft from the recog. manual.
-Worth it to still play this game!

Propnut17 11-09-22 01:22 AM

I use a laptop with Win 11 Home 64-bit version 22H2, 16GB of RAM and a Nvidia RTX 3050 graphics card. Both the operating system and the graphics drivers were upgraded to the latest versions last week. I have the Steam installation of SH5 and after the install I ran the Polish campaign in vanilla right through to the docking in Kiel. Only once this was done did I do an upgrade to TWoS 2.2.25 and then start a fresh British East Coast campaign. So far, I have not had any issues, CTD or graphical issues, so I consider myself lucky to be able to enjoy SH5 while others have not been so fortunate.

GrenSo 11-09-22 03:07 AM

I have no experience with SH5 on Win11, because I'm already on Win10, but I suspect that it will be an issue on Win11, since there were similar problems here, for example: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=253662

If you haven't tried it yet, it's best to install SH5 and also TWoS as admin in compatibility mode with Win10 or Win7, because I don't think it's due to any drivers.

BTW, does SH5 need the C++ Redistributable?

fitzcarraldo 11-09-22 07:45 AM

I'm running TWoS on W11 with GrenSo enviro and I don't have any issue, except, sometimes, the "camera out of sectors" problem in external view.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

JerseySeven 11-09-22 01:25 PM

@Grenso
Thanks. I'm already running it in Win7 compatibility mode and admin install. SH5 pre-TWOS install has no problems with the recognition images or the UZO. Running TWOS without any optional mods seems to fix the UZO, but the ship ID images are still missing. I may need to test each mod to see if any particular one or ones cause the problem. I know they all worked fine under Win10.
  • TWoS Encrypted BdU Orders
  • TWoS Officer Icons as Stations
  • TWoS Env Settings - Brighter Nights
  • TWoS SM Interior_Food Stocks
  • TWOS restore captain's icon 1 by JCWolf
  • TWoS Ship Auto Recognition <added after ID book problem>



@Fitzcarraldo
Are you running NVIDIA or Radeon? I'd switch cards if I thought it would help.


I holler if I get it sorted.

fitzcarraldo 11-09-22 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseySeven (Post 2837063)
@Grenso
Thanks. I'm already running it in Win7 compatibility mode and admin install. SH5 pre-TWOS install has no problems with the recognition images or the UZO. Running TWOS without any optional mods seems to fix the UZO, but the ship ID images are still missing. I may need to test each mod to see if any particular one or ones cause the problem. I know they all worked fine under Win10.
  • TWoS Encrypted BdU Orders
  • TWoS Officer Icons as Stations
  • TWoS Env Settings - Brighter Nights
  • TWoS SM Interior_Food Stocks
  • TWOS restore captain's icon 1 by JCWolf
  • TWoS Ship Auto Recognition <added after ID book problem>



@Fitzcarraldo
Are you running NVIDIA or Radeon? I'd switch cards if I thought it would help.


I holler if I get it sorted.

Im running Nvidia.

Warning: SM Interior Food Stock is problematic with your graohics if you use external cameras. It is recommended to use food stocks only without external cameras active. If you use external cameras, use GrenSo environment and disable Food Stock.

Try your installation:

1) with external cameras and without food stocks.
2) without external cameras and food stocks actuve.

See if this solve your issue.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

JerseySeven 11-09-22 10:38 PM

Thank you for the warning about the interior food stocks. I won't miss them. I tried with external camera and no food stocks, and no external camera and no food stocks. The problem persisted! Hmm.
I will likely play without external camera (hardly ever use it except for screenshots) and without the food stocks. Maybe after starting a new patrol things will shake out?

vanjast 11-10-22 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torpedo (Post 2836655)
https://www.mediafire.com/view/id1uj...rotto.jpg/fileHi everyone! After some months I started playing with SH5 and installing TWOS 2.2.25. Last time I had TWOS 2.2.23 and Windows 10 and everything worked great. Now I have Windows 11 and I upgraded to 2.2.25 and it came up with 2 problems. I also tried to delete the SH5 folder to make a new career but the problems are always there:
1- ID book images show as just a white background, no ship images.
2- the UZO has a square display
I don't remember what file the UZO used to try to edit it.
I also tried to change the compatibility of SH5, but nothing to do.
However from what I have read in the forum I would not be the only one to have these problems.
Anyone have a solution in mind?
Thank you so much!

https://www.mediafire.com/view/id1uj...rotto.jpg/file

https://www.mediafire.com/view/id1uj...rotto.jpg/file

[IMG]https://i.postimg.cc/nrcyxs01/UZO-corrotto.jpg[/IMG]

Torpedo :k_confused:

That looks like your scope page files are missing/corrupted.
I don't have my computer running but check your menu/gui, menu/layout, menu/pages (folder names approximate) folders.
you might also have the DDS files missing/in wrong folder, or the page folders *.ini file referencing the wrong DDS file.

:03:

What you see here is the base DirectX screen layout, and the page ini files overlay the DDS images on top of this.
SH series uses a layered image approach.

JerseySeven 11-11-22 08:27 PM

Things are getting stranger...
I did a clean install of stock SH5, and TWOS 2.2.25 full. For about 20 minutes of real time in game, everything was working fine. Charts, recog manual, UZO.
I did a mid patrol save in the middle of the sea. No contacts. Not submerged. Down in the control room. Resumed game: UZO - square white image. Recog: square white image where ship should be. Charts: just white images.
Exited to desktop, reloaded, and everything was still screwy.
I'm totally stumped!


EDIT: I think it has to do with the files ending in .TDW, which from the time stamps, get recopied to the main folder every time you load a save. Maybe they get corrupted in the process... but why only in Win11???


These filest get updated on every save:

PageAutomation_Draggables.TDW
PageChalkBoard_Draggables.TDW
PageDefaultHud_Draggables.TDW
Pageeventcamera_Draggables.TDW
Pagelayout_Draggables.TDW
PageNavMapFeatures_Draggables.TDW
PageSpeechRecSettings_Draggables.TDW
PageTDC_Draggables.TDW
PageTutorial_Draggables.TDW
PageXO_TDC_Dialog_Draggables.TDW
ScopeSettings.TDW


ScopeSettings is probably benign: just scope HUD filter colors.

Maybe "PageNavMapFeatures_Draggables.TDW"?

I can delete the game folder and recopy all the files after a fresh install and everything works the first time I load a save. If I save, and reload, then the various helpful charts all turn white. Exit to menu and reload the same save, and the charts don't show at all.

Interestingly, this correlates with with recog manual glitch and the UZO glitch as well.

vdr1981 11-12-22 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerseySeven (Post 2837498)
Things are getting stranger...
I did a clean install of stock SH5, and TWOS 2.2.25 full. For about 20 minutes of real time in game, everything was working fine. Charts, recog manual, UZO.
I did a mid patrol save in the middle of the sea. No contacts. Not submerged. Down in the control room. Resumed game: UZO - square white image. Recog: square white image where ship should be. Charts: just white images.
Exited to desktop, reloaded, and everything was still screwy.
I'm totally stumped!


EDIT: I think it has to do with the files ending in .TDW, which from the time stamps, get recopied to the main folder every time you load a save. Maybe they get corrupted in the process... but why only in Win11???


These filest get updated on every save:

PageAutomation_Draggables.TDW
PageChalkBoard_Draggables.TDW
PageDefaultHud_Draggables.TDW
Pageeventcamera_Draggables.TDW
Pagelayout_Draggables.TDW
PageNavMapFeatures_Draggables.TDW
PageSpeechRecSettings_Draggables.TDW
PageTDC_Draggables.TDW
PageTutorial_Draggables.TDW
PageXO_TDC_Dialog_Draggables.TDW
ScopeSettings.TDW


ScopeSettings is probably benign: just scope HUD filter colors.

Maybe "PageNavMapFeatures_Draggables.TDW"?

I can delete the game folder and recopy all the files after a fresh install and everything works the first time I load a save. If I save, and reload, then the various helpful charts all turn white. Exit to menu and reload the same save, and the charts don't show at all.

Interestingly, this correlates with with recog manual glitch and the UZO glitch as well.

It seems that Win11 with recent updates from some reason doesn't like old dds files from TWoS. Im not really sure how to test this since I use win7 still. :hmmm:
Maybe compression settings in dds files could be problematic. If someone could re-save few dds files on win11 without any compression, that may tell us something...:hmmm:

fitzcarraldo 11-12-22 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2837524)
It seems that Win11 with recent updates from some reason doesn't like old dds files from TWoS. Im not really sure how to test this since I use win7 still. :hmmm:
Maybe compression settings in dds files could be problematic. If someone could re-save few dds files on win11 without any compression, that may tell us something...:hmmm:

Hi Vecko.

I use TWoS with W11 and I do not have any issue.

Not a problem with W11 for me.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

JerseySeven 11-12-22 08:51 PM

If I delete the Silent Hunter 5 folder and copied all SH5-TWOS files from an unplayed backup it works fine... for awhile. In the image below, you see the user charts, and recog manual are fine, and the UZO looks normal.

https://imgur.com/a/4uZvSHD


So, Win11 can display things properly, but only for a time. Pressing 'O' for the clock messes everything again, instantly. Also, using the enigma decoder seems to also initiate the problem. Sometimes, not doing either of those actions, and the UZO and recog manual will still blank out.



BTW: I had excluded the Silent Hunter 5 folder from my antivirus sniffing around. Apparently, that was not enough to prevent recurrence of the problem.


Unless someone has a breakthrough solution, I will just install Windows 10 on a bootable USB stick, along with UPlay, and Silent Hunter 5. I'm done wasting time getting this to work in Win11.



Thankfully, I do not need to do this with SH3 or SH4.


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