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LuteFlute 03-16-21 03:01 PM

Base GWX3.0 crashing
 
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Hey everyone, I'm new around here, and just discovered the joy of SH3, coming from U-BOAT, the gameplay and features in SH3 are awesome (thanks to the mods)

Anyways, I've been playing SH3 (steam version) for the past 3 days with this mod setup, and have never got it to work flawlessly https://pasteboard.co/JSVbeJj.png
It would crash towards the end of loading the menu or a mission (from the port or save). The thing is, sometimes I am able to load fine and pray to god it works from thereon. It also turns out that in-game it does crash sometimes, (noticed this occurs usually around the bay of northern France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, could be just a coincidence) which finally broke me, as I just couldn't progress anymore.

As such, I tried to do a fresh installation (deleted everything SH3 related) to try and test each mod one by one (should have done this before I know...). I tried out SH3 with just GWX 3.0 and :wah: yup, still crashes. I'm lost, if anyone, got any other ideas, I'll gladly listen. Anyways, I'm gonna go to bed as it's late, and trying to fix this has been driving me crazy. Sidenote: crashes could be from my RAM sticks, as they are iffy for some games, so I'll test this out and update this thread with the results after I wake up.

Thanks!

EDIT: Unfortunately (or fortunately for the sticks themselves) the tested RAM sticks also crash.

John Pancoast 03-16-21 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LuteFlute (Post 2736799)
Hey everyone, I'm new around here, and just discovered the joy of SH3, coming from U-BOAT, the gameplay and features in SH3 are awesome (thanks to the mods)

Anyways, I've been playing SH3 (steam version) for the past 3 days with this mod setup, and have never got it to work flawlessly https://pasteboard.co/JSVbeJj.png
It would crash towards the end of loading the menu or a mission (from the port or save). The thing is, sometimes I am able to load fine and pray to god it works from thereon. It also turns out that in-game it does crash sometimes, (noticed this occurs usually around the bay of northern France, Belgium, and the Netherlands, could be just a coincidence) which finally broke me, as I just couldn't progress anymore.

As such, I tried to do a fresh installation (deleted everything SH3 related) to try and test each mod one by one (should have done this before I know...). I tried out SH3 with just GWX 3.0 and :wah: yup, still crashes. I'm lost, if anyone, got any other ideas, I'll gladly listen. Anyways, I'm gonna go to bed as it's late, and trying to fix this has been driving me crazy. Sidenote: crashes could be from my RAM sticks, as they are iffy for some games, so I'll test this out and update this thread with the results after I wake up.

Thanks!

In terms of your mod list, the TKSS u-boats and the ARB gui eat up memory.
In terms of saves some general SH3 rules to prevent corrupt saves/ctds.
- only save on the surface.
- only save when 50km or more from land and/or other ships.
- I've had the best luck saving from the navigation map screen.
If any of your saves have "broke" these guidelines, your save may be corrupted causing even base GWX to ctd in which case a re-install is advised.

Aktungbby 03-16-21 04:55 PM

welcome aboard!
 
LuteFlute!:Kaleun_Salute:

LuteFlute 03-16-21 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by John Pancoast (Post 2736809)
In terms of your mod list, the TKSS u-boats and the ARB gui eat up memory.
In terms of saves some general SH3 rules to prevent corrupt saves/ctds.
- only save on the surface.
- only save when 50km or more from land and/or other ships.
- I've had the best luck saving from the navigation map screen.
If any of your saves have "broke" these guidelines, your save may be corrupted causing even base GWX to ctd in which case a re-install is advised.

All right, thanks for the general info on how to use SH3, especially with the saves. I think I should have enough memory, 16gb. Also, I have reinstalled GWX as a base to no avail, which is the reason why I am confused.

John Pancoast 03-16-21 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LuteFlute (Post 2736837)
All right, thanks for the general info on how to use SH3, especially with the saves. I think I should have enough memory, 16gb. Also, I have reinstalled GWX as a base to no avail, which is the reason why I am confused.

The saves are kept separate from the game in path "drive\my documents\gwx" or whatever is similar for your OS. That (entire folder) needs to be deleted too before a re-install.
That may be causing the current problems.

Jeff-Groves 03-16-21 06:26 PM

I'd suggest patching the SH3.exe to use more RAM.
Then make sure you set compatibility mode.

Also. I'd copy a clean install from Steam to a different folder outside of the Program files areas then add GWX and the 4 GIG patch.

LuteFlute 03-16-21 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by John Pancoast (Post 2736839)
The saves are kept separate from the game in path "drive\my documents\gwx" or whatever is similar for your OS. That (entire folder) needs to be deleted too before a re-install.
That may be causing the current problems.

Odd, I don't see any file "gwx" file, anywhere. I have however found several posts (steam and subsim) indicating that SH3 needs to be run on administrator mode, but more important Win XP sp2, and those guys have the same symptoms I am having. I'm also reinstalling GWX 3.0 as the FullSingleInstaller which people seem to use more, as I used the 7part file installer before. Just gonna shotgun all these ideas, and hope one of em works.

LuteFlute 03-16-21 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2736821)
LuteFlute!:Kaleun_Salute:

:Kaleun_Salute: Thanks Aktungbby!

Jeff-Groves 03-16-21 06:32 PM

The Steam install seems to be causing a lot of trouble as of late.
I don't use Steam but try to help since I wrote the GWX 3 installer.

I run as WinXP service pack 3

I use Windows 7

LuteFlute 03-16-21 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2736846)
The Steam install seems to be causing a lot of trouble as of late.
I don't use Steam but try to help since I wrote the GWX 3 installer.

I'll let you know how things go, as this GWX 3.0 file type is barely being seeded. should be finished in around 1 - 2 hours.

Jeff-Groves 03-16-21 06:35 PM

This is the FULL install directly from the one who wrote it!
https://www.mediafire.com/file/a0w34..._Full.exe/file

:up:

LuteFlute 03-16-21 06:38 PM

There's too many versions from too many places, I'm currently just downloading the one labeled "GWX3.fullsingleinstallexe.torrent" from http://www.thegreywolves.com/downloads/

Jeff-Groves 03-16-21 06:39 PM

Yep. That's a good one.
My link is the ORIGINAL that all copies came from.

You are welcome to ask around about me if you wish.

John Pancoast 03-16-21 06:58 PM

Jeff will set you straight. Very knowledgable. :salute:

LuteFlute 03-16-21 07:41 PM

I believe you Jeff, not questioning your knowledge or anything, was just remarking as to how over the past 10 years, so many versions of GWX 3.0 have been uploaded to different places, that every other mod I download makes me question if this is the correct one, lol.

LuteFlute 03-16-21 07:48 PM

Welp, I'm out of ideas, still crashing even after using a different GWX 3.0 installer, and running it in administration mode, and win xps2/3.

Jeff-Groves 03-16-21 07:48 PM

I understand Mate.
And don't blame you for being cautious. Smart on your part.
My link will always be there in case you ever need it.
:salute:

Jeff-Groves 03-16-21 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LuteFlute (Post 2736860)
Welp, I'm out of ideas, still crashing even after using a different GWX 3.0 installer, and running it in administration mode, and win xps2/3.

Can you give details on Hardware, software, and such?
the more info the better We can try to help.

Install path of SH3 also.

blackswan40 03-16-21 07:51 PM

Hi LuteFute sorry to hear your having trouble with Your Steam install of SH3/GWX
same for me and Onkel Neal Stevens C-in-C Subsim also ive reinstalled my steam version of SH3 it works fine.

But when i place the 7 GWX bins files and the GWX.Exe it installs but when GWX fires up it is Paused and i cant unpause it Grrr.
My steam install is installed in Program Files X86 so uninstalled steam and reinstalled on drive C:/ outside Program Files X86 then reinstalled SH3 and GWX still same result looks like steam version of SH3 dont like you moding it any more.
But theres another option i can send you two copies of SH3 on Dvd copied from this original below PM me your home address and ill post you the discs Thursday Sir the dvd's are starforce free

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Jeff-Groves 03-16-21 07:59 PM

If you are correct on the problem with Steam?
I'll figure it out with some help.
:up:


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