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QuantumTyphoon 07-15-22 02:45 PM

I want to build my own submarine any idea how?
 
I have my open water diver certificate and I have not dived more than 120 feet. I'd like to explore depths exceeding 300 feet without nitrogen narcosis or dive bells. I'd like a crush depth of 600ft no less preferably. Either towed (battery) or battery and diesel no preference. I have no need for periscopes. Sonar would be handy for detecting boats and fish and the bottom. A couple view ports would be nice, one on the top and one near the bottom. Capability of attaching external camera's in their own pressure safe compartments.

For the technical stuff what do I need to learn? I can't imagine that simple plumbing knowledge will help much, or home depot will provide me with anything I need to acquire for the project. Who should I ask for help? I need to find out how to build ballasts. pumps that don't freeze when in cold water and at depth. The deeper you go the colder it gets right? I'd like the capacity of the boat for 2 people maximum. How do I go about sourcing the components I need to build the submarine? I live in Saskatchewan, Canada. So I'm not near any ports where I could just walk in and start asking questions.

Am I right in thinking along this train of thought ?

Will my submarine have a keel to keep it from rolling in rough sea's like ww2 military submarines had. Would adding a keel compromise the maximum depth, both in cost and strength. I need a coning tower to keep water out of the top hatch? How do I shape the metal? I can't do that myself I have to get a manufacturer to do that for me ? Should I ask a tank maker to make me a tank. But how would I calculate the variables when cutting holes for pipes example: ballast tanks, pipes, propeller shaft, etc. After cutting a hole in a tank or some other pressure capsule how do I reinforce the hole from the inside and the outside? Could I make one with a budget of $60,000 Canadian?

Mod: I don't know where else to ask this question. And I did some searches but I didn't find any info, except for toy models and such.

mapuc 07-15-22 03:13 PM

I found this page, when i searched for mini Submarine selling.

https://www.etsy.com/uk/market/submarine_blueprint
and this page
https://www.shutterstock.com/search/submarine-blueprint

Wouldn't it be better with a diving bell

I guess it would be easier to build such a thing like a Diving bell.

Markus

em2nought 07-16-22 12:40 AM

You could become pen pals with a certain Danish prisoner. :D

...or this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qET7_uqOE8c

mapuc 07-16-22 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2818297)
You could become pen pals with a certain Danish prisoner. :D

...or this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qET7_uqOE8c

What I wrote was wrong-So I erased it.

Markus

Onkel Neal 07-16-22 10:32 AM

You could build a submarine for $60,000, I'm sure most of the narco "subs" cost less than that. But keep in mind, there's very little margin for error with negative buoyancy craft. One thing goes wrong and your dead.

Jimbuna 07-16-22 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2818324)
You could build a submarine for $60,000, I'm sure most of the narco "subs" cost less than that. But keep in mind, there's very little margin for error with negative buoyancy craft. One thing goes wrong and your dead.

QFT :yep:

nikimcbee 07-16-22 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2818324)
You could build a submarine for $60,000, I'm sure most of the narco "subs" cost less than that. But keep in mind, there's very little margin for error with negative buoyancy craft. One thing goes wrong and your dead.


Ditto. I have no idea how they calculate crush depth? I guess you can only dive as deep as your weakest point? You get a low quality part, install it wrong, or bad engineering....

mapuc 07-16-22 06:16 PM

It would be easier to build some sort of a Diving bell-here he has multiple choices-From fully closed to fully open.

Here it is the thickness of the material-most likely steel which decide how deep he can go.

Markus

Aktungbby 07-16-22 07:26 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TBxDInEFF8 :Kaleun_Salute:.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cTDlOfl3B8

em2nought 07-17-22 10:44 AM

I don't think those NARCO subs are truly submarines, instead I think they're designed to travel just below the surface with a tiny cockpit sticking out of the water. A much easier craft to construct I'd say than a true submarine.

Quote:

Can narco subs go underwater?
Image result for narco subs not true submarines
Virtually all narco submarines interdicted at sea have been more correctly termed low-profile vessels (LPVs). Also known as semi-submersibles, these are craft designed to run exceptionally low in the water to avoid detection. But they cannot fully submerge.Nov 16, 2020
I wonder if George Soros has a mega yacht? hmmm

Aktungbby 07-17-22 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2818466)
I don't think those NARCO subs are truly submarines, instead I think they're designed to travel just below the surface with a tiny cockpit sticking out of the water. A much easier craft to construct I'd say than a true submarine.



I wonder if George Soros has a mega yacht? hmmm

NOT ANYMORE: http://www.hisutton.com/Fully-Submer...-Apr-2022.html
Quote:

'Arauca River Monster' Just when our eyes are fixed on the Ukraine War, a narco submarine surfaces on the other side of the world. It’s been relatively quiet on the Narcosub front these past few months. But the one found last week in Venezuela is one of the most significant developments for some time.

A narco submarine discovered on the Arauca River is unusual and significant in 3 ways:

Firstly, it is a fully submersible vessel (FSV), which is unusual in itself. These can submerge like a navy submarine, although only to shallow depths.
This is the first time a FSV has been caught ‘in the act’. Normally they are found while still under construction. Unlike their semi-submersible brethren (low profile vessels -LPV), none have been interdicted at sea.

It was found on an inland river sailing between Colombia and Venezuela. This may indicate a variation on the known transatlantic smuggling route.

vienna 07-18-22 07:42 PM

Its all fun and games til someone decides to build his own DE...




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Platapus 07-19-22 03:22 PM

Just don't invite a lady journalist onboard.......

em2nought 07-19-22 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2818846)
Just don't invite a lady journalist onboard.......

but if you do, might I suggest: :D

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...%282018%29.jpg

nikimcbee 07-19-22 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2818872)


...or the cast of the View?






On a serious note, if I had a boat load of cash, I'd try and build Simon Lakes' "Protector".

QuantumTyphoon 07-20-22 12:04 AM

from a website dedicated to submarines I was expecting more. Ironically I did find information indirectly through this website and others from modders who don't mod anymore.biblio.org/ and the hsna.org has a lot of information that explains what I need to design a submarine and build one. Maybe I should leave it be. But how are you guys so stupid???? Your like 10 year old children. No that's insulting to ten year old children. Your like 6 year old children. You scoop up some links anyone could get in under 2 minutes. In the silent hunter 3 manual it states that the allies had invented 2cm radar which could detect any snorkel or periscope that was higher then 2cm. That was the end of the 1940's. The whole drug boats with snorkels is either made up or they're made by peasants with the most basic knowledge. For years the only way for the Russians to get close to American soil was by keeping submerged. But now evidently someone with a budget of ford mustang can get past the anti submarine forces of the U.S Navy. Yeah right. This forum had turned into a joke. Bye bye jokers.

mapuc 07-20-22 06:29 AM

Well NONE of us here is expert in constructing a submarine. We had an honoured member some years ago-He had built his own sub. Well due to a story well known around the globe he is it not anymore. 'cause you could have asked him for the blueprint to his Nautilus UC3.

Secondly this is Subsim a forum where stay on target is...

I gave you some link after having made some search for blueprint to submarines. Since I'm not an expert in this field I don't know if they can be used as a guideline that is.

Markus

Onkel Neal 07-20-22 07:37 AM

Well, if you're trying to get critical information on how to build a submarine from an internet forum.... please keep us posted on the progress of your submarine.

Jimbuna 07-20-22 08:14 AM

Most importantly, don't forget to install scuttling charges.

Jeff-Groves 07-20-22 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by QuantumTyphoon (Post 2818889)
from a website dedicated to submarines I was expecting more.

Didn't read the fine print did you?
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