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France’s Submarine The New Suffren-Class

I like this boat ... if I were a small country I would purchase a couple of them :yep:

https://www.navalnews.com/event-news...nE#prettyPhoto

https://www.navalnews.com/wp-content...-Cutaway-3.jpg

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Six new attack submarines will form the vanguard of the French Navy (Marine Nationale) for the coming decades. Developed as the Barracuda program, the lead boat of the new class, Suffren, is expected to formally join the fleet next year. The new submarines will offer a massive capability leap over the current Rubis-class boats.

Among the improvements, the Suffren-class will be armed with a wider spectrum of weapons. The latest F-21 heavyweight torpedoes will provide the core anti-submarine and anti-ship punch. These electric-powered weapon can use rechargeable lithium-ion batteries for training shots, and one-time aluminum silver oxide batteries for war shots. With a speed of over 50 knots it can reach targets over 27 nautical miles (50 km) away.

The other new weapon carried will be the Naval Cruise Missile (NCM). This is generally equivalent of the Tomahawk land attack cruise missile (LACM). Cruise missiles will provide the Suffren-class with a first-night strategic strike capability. This will reach deep inside enemy territory, a capability few other navies will have.

The weapons load-out can be rounded out with the FG-29 mine and Exocet SM39 anti-ship missile. Both of these are already carried by Marine Nationale submarines.

In the future, torpedo-sized UUVs (uncrewed underwater vehicles) may also be carried. Naval Group’s new D-19 type might be ideally suited. These can carry out a wide range of missions including Intelligence, Surveillance & Reconnaissance (ISR), electronic warfare (EW), anti-submarine warfare (ASW),mine counter-measures (MCM) and mine warfare.

To me it seems like a minimalistic SSN, without much exciting things happening in sonar or weapons.

Just what I previously posted about Australia's plans after Collins' class. https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=247027

An awful lot is packed into what is not a relatively large platform but I hope she meets all that is being claimed of her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYLCwhY6Itg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gddKLswAJ2w

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One disadvantage of this smaller size is that Suffren can carry fewer weapons. With nuclear-powered attack submarines being an apex predator there is a consideration that they may sink so many enemy warships that they run out of torpedoes. This will be particularly true of the Suffren which carries about the same number of weapons as a non-nuclear submarine. Her maximum load of around 24 weapons is about 60% that of the current Virginia and Astute classes.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutto...ack-submarine/

Not just benefits to the class. But an addition to the Navy and its allies.

^ That's going to make some underwater noise for sure :yep:

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2712144)

^ That's going to make some underwater noise for sure :yep:

Yep, if you try to go silent with that thing, you’ll be... Suffren.

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2712158)

Yep, if you try to go silent with that thing, you’ll be... Suffren.

Nice one :)

I really don't understand why people say these boats are small ? they are just a touch under 100m long, when you consider that the boats they are replacing the Rubis class which are 76m long its quite a big leap.
The UK Trafalgar class are smaller than the suffren at 86m long and have a pretty good array of capabilities packed in.
On a side note the UK Astute class are only a smidge shorter than the suffren there's about 2m in it.

The only real drawback I actually see with these boats is the lack of ability to engage land targets, they don't carry a land attack missile like the RN or USN thats not to say that this cannot be remedied in the future.

In all honesty I think the Suffren will do just fine and as intended (and this is coming from an English man who doesn't like the French pretty much)

Anyway thats just my 2 cents Im off to gargle some Listerine now i said the above.

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Originally Posted by Kapitan (Post 2713205)

The only real drawback I actually see with these boats is the lack of ability to engage land targets, they don't carry a land attack missile like the RN or USN thats not to say that this cannot be remedied in the future.

They have Naval Cruise Missile (NCM) in the inventory. They tested one from the Suffren in October.

https://www.navalnews.com/event-news...ruise-missile/

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Originally Posted by UglyMowgli (Post 2713241)

They have Naval Cruise Missile (NCM) in the inventory. They tested one from the Suffren in October.

https://www.navalnews.com/event-news...ruise-missile/

Thankyou for the correction i must have missed that i redact my statement on the matter.

Comes complete with auto deployed white flag upon detection of UK assets.

You still didn't digest the Hundred Years' War? Did you known the next French SSN will be named Guillaume Le Conquerant, you known the French guy who ... , well you known the story, no need to to put salt on the wound :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

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Originally Posted by UglyMowgli (Post 2715670)

Yeah it is rather a shame though they have to go back nearly a millennium to find a French person who actually won a battle (tongue firmly in cheek) i mean us Brits have so many that even the US navy uses our names too.