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Commander Wallace 05-24-22 08:19 PM

Gunman kills 19 children, 2 adults in Texas grade school
 
Yet another school shooting. :nope:


Quote: UVALDE, Texas (AP) — An 18-year-old gunman opened fire Tuesday at a Texas elementary school, killing at least 18 children as he went from classroom to classroom, officials said, in the latest gruesome moment for a country scarred by a string of massacres. The assailant was killed by law enforcement.


https://news.yahoo.com/texas-school-...173651467.html



It was the deadliest shooting at a U.S. grade school since a gunman killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, almost a decade ago. And it came just 10 days after a gunman in body armor killed 10 Black shoppers and workers at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, in what authorities say was a racist attack.


Federal law enforcement officials said the death toll was expected to rise. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release investigative details.


https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2022...e-texas-school

Reece 05-24-22 08:56 PM

Oh that is so horrible, especially for the parents, basically a suicide mission but why take out innocent children??? :k_confused:

So sad. :wah:
Well he's now stoking the fire for eternity!! :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Buddahaid 05-24-22 09:15 PM

Discusting and on top of finding out today a friend in New Orleans is fighting for his life.

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_poli...d5c7fe95c.html

em2nought 05-24-22 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece (Post 2810344)
Oh that is so horrible, especially for the parents, basically a suicide mission but why take out innocent children??? :k_confused:

So sad. :wah:
Well he's now stoking the fire for eternity!! :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

I really don't understand why these folks don't go after politicians instead of children. I mean if you want to blame someone for your problems other than yourself I'd think the obvious answer would be... :hmmm:

Kptlt. Neuerburg 05-24-22 10:06 PM

One has to ask how in a state like Texas where were all the "good guys" with their guns?

August 05-24-22 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kptlt. Neuerburg (Post 2810349)
One has to ask how in a state like Texas where were all the "good guys" with their guns?


From what I understand there was an all points bulletin out for the killer for the murder of his grandmother earlier in the day.

I'd like to know why elementary school outside doors are not kept locked while kids are still there.

d@rk51d3 05-24-22 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2810352)
From what I understand there was an all points bulletin out for the killer for the murder of his grandmother earlier in the day.

I'd like to know why elementary school outside doors are not kept locked while kids are still there.

Was reported here as a border force pursuit gone wrong, when he diverted into the school.

Reece 05-25-22 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2810345)
Discusting and on top of finding out today a friend in New Orleans is fighting for his life.

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_poli...d5c7fe95c.html

I hope and pray your friend pulls through ok. :oops:

Jimbuna 05-25-22 07:07 AM

Utterly tragic :nope:

mapuc 05-25-22 07:11 AM

To my American friend I say

Welcome to your reality welcome to an ordinary day where this will be a common thing.

Markus

Commander Wallace 05-25-22 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2810346)
I really don't understand why these folks don't go after politicians instead of children. I mean if you want to blame someone for your problems other than yourself I'd think the obvious answer would be... :hmmm:


I don't understand why anyone would want to go after anyone with weapons, including politicians. In the twisted minds of these moron's, children and the older people are “ soft “ targets with no real means to defend themselves. I keep asking myself why anyone would want to do something like this. How does harming innocent children fix anything ? :Kaleun_Mad:
Find a hobby, go to the gym and beat up a punching bag, etc....


Quote:

Originally Posted by August (Post 2810352)
From what I understand there was an all points bulletin out for the killer for the murder of his grandmother earlier in the day.

I'd like to know why elementary school outside doors are not kept locked while kids are still there.

We discussed this in the Subsim forum's years ago August after a school shooting. Implementation of security systems as you suggested would be relatively easy to put into place. I'm guessing It was determined at some level that installing security wasn't “ cost effective.” Security systems should be implemented for all kids right from day care / kindergarten through to high school and also the colleges. I guess in their view, it's easier for the community to grieve over the loss of these innocent kids senselessly taken away and attend their funerals. :nope:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2810345)
Discusting and on top of finding out today a friend in New Orleans is fighting for his life.

https://www.nola.com/news/crime_poli...d5c7fe95c.html


As Reece already said, thoughts and prayers for your friend to pull through and recover.

Commander Wallace 05-25-22 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2810377)
To my American friend I say

Welcome to your reality welcome to an ordinary day where this will be a common thing.

Markus


That's hardly appropriate or constructive, Markus. :nope:

blackswan40 05-25-22 07:22 AM

So how do gun laws work America

you have tobe 18

have proof of Address

are there any criminal and mental heath issue checks or can you just turn up at a gun shop buy two hand guns and automatic rifle and 200 plus rounds of amounition.
at 18 your deemed a man but at 17 your a minor time for a rethink.
Just my two cents worth.

Skybird 05-25-22 07:25 AM

Will it this time finally be enough?


Unlikely.

Commander Wallace 05-25-22 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackswan40 (Post 2810384)
So how do gun laws work America

you have tobe 18

have proof of Address

are there any criminal and mental heath issue checks or can you just turn up at a gun shop buy two hand guns and automatic rifle and 200 plus rounds of amounition.
at 18 your deemed a man but at 17 your a minor time for a rethink.
Just my two cents worth.


Sadly Andrew, the comprehensive back ground checks have lagged behind the times. Some states do a very good job of checking the background of people looking to buy firearms. Other states, not so much.

Apparently, the moron who shot these kids had posted on social media that he was planning " something big. " It has been reported he purchased the weapons he used in this rampage shortly after he turned 18.

Mental heath checks should certainly be mandatory in the purchase of weapons.

Jimbuna 05-25-22 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackswan40 (Post 2810384)
So how do gun laws work America

you have tobe 18

have proof of Address

are there any criminal and mental heath issue checks or can you just turn up at a gun shop buy two hand guns and automatic rifle and 200 plus rounds of amounition.
at 18 your deemed a man but at 17 your a minor time for a rethink.
Just my two cents worth.

Sending you a PM.....enjoy :03:

August 05-25-22 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackswan40 (Post 2810384)
So how do gun laws work America

you have tobe 18

have proof of Address

are there any criminal and mental heath issue checks or can you just turn up at a gun shop buy two hand guns and automatic rifle and 200 plus rounds of amounition.
at 18 your deemed a man but at 17 your a minor time for a rethink.
Just my two cents worth.


50 states 50 answers to your question.


Here in Massachusetts you need a license to buy a gun and pass a background check. Problem here is that the murderer did pass that background check. I expect a lot of anti-gun legislation that would not address the actual problem of nut cases being allowed to walk our streets.

mapuc 05-25-22 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2810382)
That's hardly appropriate or constructive, Markus. :nope:

I know and I'm sorry but this was what were on my mind when I wrote it.

I feel so sorry for all these parents who has lost a love one.

Since it has happen before AND it will happen again because America has this NRA organization who will fight any law that strengthen it.

However all this is not my headache even though I'm truly sorry for all these life lost due to NRA and other organization who fights tighter weapon laws.

Then you could say-I'm not an American it's not my problem.

Markus

August 05-25-22 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2810390)
I know and I'm sorry but this was what were on my mind when I wrote it.

I feel so sorry for all these parents who has lost a love one.

Since it has happen before AND it will happen again because America has this NRA organization who will fight any law that strengthen it.

However all this is not my headache even though I'm truly sorry for all these life lost due to NRA and other organization who fights tighter weapon laws.

Then you could say-I'm not an American it's not my problem.

Markus


Why do you blame the tool and not the perpetrator Markus? Would you feel better if they were all pushed out of windows or run down by a speeding SUV?

The NRA, or what is left of it, fights for our right to possess firearms, a constitutionally protected right that is supposed to be recognized by the government and not infringed upon. You will never hear them say that mentally deficient people should be allowed to buy firearms.

You can take every gun out of the country (well theoretically anyways, I wouldn't surrender mine without a fight) and you would still have mass murderers. Did you know that the largest school massacre in my country was NOT perpetrated with a gun? Thirty-eight elementary school children blown up by a disgruntled school board member. The death toll would have been much higher if all of the explosives he planted had gone off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

Ostfriese 05-25-22 08:45 AM

Well, as it's always a mentally ill/deficient person who commits such mass shootings why don't you vote for universal healthcare so that these people can receive the help they need, instead of voting for the party that wants to give out more guns?


Or how about an age restriction, considering that most perpetrators of mass shootings are younger than 25?


And while we are at it: the NRA does not fight for your right to possess firearms. They fight for the producers right to sell firearms to you, they don't give a =(%& about the average John Doe.


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