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CaptainKoloth 02-26-23 12:03 PM

Tactical modern naval reading list
 
Hello all:

Sort of a long-winded question here which boils down to: are there any good books describing, at a super-tactical level (I'm thinking like, Dangerous Waters manual level of detail) how actual consoles on a modern naval vessel work? I'm assuming no because of classification issues.

Basically the genesis of the question was this thought process: you can get switch-for-switch accurate simulators of aircraft (e.g. DCS), tanks (e.g. Steel Beasts), trains (e.g. Train Sim World), all sorts of ground vehicles, that would to some extent let you go right off and operate a real one - pretty much everything but naval vessels. I think in part this is because all of those other vehicles can be controlled by 1-2 people, but obviously even a small naval ship has a crew of dozens. But it led to the question in my mind of, "you can learn on a computer to basically control every switch and aspect of those vehicles; to what extent is that true of naval vessels"? So that led to "how accurate IS a game like DW relative to real life", which I don't have a good handle on.

I realize such a book likely doesn't exist, but even a book about what it's like in real life, perhaps like the first answer to this Quora question, would be interesting.

Otto Harkaman 02-26-23 01:40 PM

https://www.amazon.com/General-Naval.../dp/1682475417

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71a67AhrLKL.jpg

CaptainKoloth 02-26-23 01:42 PM

Thanks! I have that one though- it's much higher level than what I'm looking for.

mapuc 02-26-23 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainKoloth (Post 2855191)
Hello all:

Sort of a long-winded question here which boils down to: are there any good books describing, at a super-tactical level (I'm thinking like, Dangerous Waters manual level of detail) how actual consoles on a modern naval vessel work? I'm assuming no because of classification issues.

Basically the genesis of the question was this thought process: you can get switch-for-switch accurate simulators of aircraft (e.g. DCS), tanks (e.g. Steel Beasts), trains (e.g. Train Sim World), all sorts of ground vehicles, that would to some extent let you go right off and operate a real one - pretty much everything but naval vessels. I think in part this is because all of those other vehicles can be controlled by 1-2 people, but obviously even a small naval ship has a crew of dozens. But it led to the question in my mind of, "you can learn on a computer to basically control every switch and aspect of those vehicles; to what extent is that true of naval vessels"? So that led to "how accurate IS a game like DW relative to real life", which I don't have a good handle on.

I realize such a book likely doesn't exist, but even a book about what it's like in real life, perhaps like the first answer to this Quora question, would be interesting.


I found a few. Here's the first book:

https://petersboeken.nl/product/nava...warfare-guide/

Second:
https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Naval-.../dp/0517613506

You wrote "are there any good books describing, at a super-tactical level (I'm thinking like, Dangerous Waters manual level of detail)"

There is this manual from Jane's Sub Command

https://www.scribd.com/document/2073...nd-User-Manual

Markus

KaleunMarco 02-26-23 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2855211)
There is this manual from Jane's Sub Command

https://www.scribd.com/document/2073...nd-User-Manual

Markus

i have that game and have enjoyed playing it for many years.
it has never CTD'd on me.
not once.
:03:

mapuc 02-26-23 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco (Post 2855223)
i have that game and have enjoyed playing it for many years.
it has never CTD'd on me.
not once.
:03:

Same here. Would love to play a modern version of this game.

Markus

Kapitan 02-26-23 07:15 PM

this book is decent https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Subm.../dp/9385699016

Id also recommend seawolves red & blue books

UglyMowgli 02-26-23 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2855226)
Same here. Would love to play a modern version of this game.

Markus


Like MNW?



https://mnw.maslasbros.com/

mapuc 02-27-23 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UglyMowgli (Post 2855281)

Hey I forgot all about that-It's on my wish list at STEAM.

Looking forward to take control over a SSGN or similar and create havoc among the enemies-Are also looking forward to play MP again.

Markus


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