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Alpheratz 02-12-21 01:02 PM

Improve your skills in real navigation.
https://youtu.be/12oNG3WIZAo

vdr1981 02-12-21 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2721797)
I have also compiled sunrise and sunset tables that can be included in the TWoS real navigation documentation. My tables are more detailed, contain the necessary hints that are relevant for SH5, so they can replace "SunAlmanac39_45", "SunAlmanacAndSpeedTable" from the folder that you showed me.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10ot...ew?usp=sharing - sunrise/sunset in northern latitudes

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jF3...ew?usp=sharing - sunrise/sunset in southern latitudes

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2729548)
Improve your skills in real navigation.
https://youtu.be/12oNG3WIZAo


Great as always! Thank you very much Alpheratz. I am slowly preparing update 2.2.23 and lot of your stuff will be in it. (links to your tutorials, documentation, charts ect...):yep:

derstosstrupp 02-13-21 02:50 PM

Huge thank you to Alpheratz and the creator of the NewSextant mod! I have always wanted a way to do celnav in a sim, and now all the pieces are there to do it. After seeing the post about the acceleration and deceleration of the celestial sphere, I was trying to figure it out in international TWOS - this last video and this information came at just the right time because my solution was inelegant at best.

I know sometimes when posting things, we are never quite sure how many people we are reaching or if anybody cares. So please know that myself and at least a couple others I know will greatly appreciate this effort. And I certainly hope that other players who might not as yet be familiar with celnav give this a try, it’s a very rich experience, and it’s really not hard (basic arithmetic is all it has to be).

Ritterkreuz verdient! :Kaleun_Salute:

And noted for this year’s best of subsim vote when the time comes…

Alpheratz 02-13-21 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by derstosstrupp (Post 2729840)
Huge thank you to Alpheratz and the creator of the NewSextant mod! I have always wanted a way to do celnav in a sim, and now all the pieces are there to do it. After seeing the post about the acceleration and deceleration of the celestial sphere, I was trying to figure it out in international TWOS - this last video and this information came at just the right time because my solution was inelegant at best.

I know sometimes when posting things, we are never quite sure how many people we are reaching or if anybody cares. So please know that myself and at least a couple others I know will greatly appreciate this effort. And I certainly hope that other players who might not as yet be familiar with celnav give this a try, it’s a very rich experience, and it’s really not hard (basic arithmetic is all it has to be).

Ritterkreuz verdient! :Kaleun_Salute:

And noted for this year’s best of subsim vote when the time comes…

Thank you, derstosstrupp, for evaluating my work! I am glad that this attracts the attention of an authoritative and competent audience, which is interested in the fullest possible disclosure of the potential of our favorite simulator.
:Kaleun_Salute:

Alpheratz 02-13-21 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2729568)
Great as always! Thank you very much Alpheratz. I am slowly preparing update 2.2.23 and lot of your stuff will be in it. (links to your tutorials, documentation, charts ect...):yep:

Vecko, i'm pleased that this will be my contribution to the overall effort to make the game better :salute:

Sean C 02-14-21 02:32 AM

Great job, Alpheratz! I was going to suggest that we collaborate on a spreadsheet or something, but I see you have that taken care of! :yeah:

Alpheratz 02-14-21 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean C (Post 2729908)
Great job, Alpheratz! I was going to suggest that we collaborate on a spreadsheet or something, but I see you have that taken care of! :yeah:

Thanks! I thought that not everyone would be comfortable using kriegsmarine tables. Let there be a spreadsheet for quick navigation, it can be used both for training and on an ongoing basis. :yep:

derstosstrupp 02-14-21 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2729915)
Thanks! I thought that not everyone would be comfortable using kriegsmarine tables. Let there be a spreadsheet for quick navigation, it can be used both for training and on an ongoing basis. :yep:

F-Tafel all the way! In practice though I tend to use either Pub 249 or a scientific calculator. F-Tafel though is very accurate and relatively quick too once you get the hang of it.

Alpheratz 02-14-21 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by derstosstrupp (Post 2729940)
F-Tafel all the way! In practice though I tend to use either Pub 249 or a scientific calculator. F-Tafel though is very accurate and relatively quick too once you get the hang of it.

I also prefer the F-Tafel. I'm planning to do another more detailed video on using the F-Tafel. My first video about F-Tafel is not suitable for using "SH5NewSextant".

vdr1981 02-14-21 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2720262)
As for those documents that are included in the "nav doc from TWoS", I think it is advisable to save them, there is training information on which I did not emphasize in my videos and it can be useful for studying. It may be worth putting it in a separate folder, indicating that these documents have been adapted for SH3 / SH4, but are suitable for mastering celestial navigation in SH5. Only Document "SH3_RNM_TheModInDetail" seems to me not relevant for SH5.

If you remember our previous conversation I would like to ask this as well...You mean that I can leave files "SunAlmanac39_45.xls" and "SunAlmanacAndSpeedTable.pdf" even though you have created (if I'm not mistaken) specialized Almanacs for SH5 only? Is this correct?

Alpheratz 02-14-21 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2730051)
If you remember our previous conversation I would like to ask this as well...You mean that I can leave files "SunAlmanac39_45.xls" and "SunAlmanacAndSpeedTable.pdf" even though you have created (if I'm not mistaken) specialized Almanacs for SH5 only? Is this correct?

I would recommend excluding "SunAlmanac39_45.xls" and "SunAlmanacAndSpeedTable.pdf" from the documentation because they are calculated based on the actual declination of the Sun. I have compiled my tables of sunrise and sunset based on the declination of the Sun, which take place in the world SH5.

vdr1981 02-14-21 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2730072)
I would recommend excluding "SunAlmanac39_45.xls" and "SunAlmanacAndSpeedTable.pdf" from the documentation because they are calculated based on the actual declination of the Sun. I have compiled my tables of sunrise and sunset based on the declination of the Sun, which take place in the world SH5.

Thank you! :up:

vdr1981 02-14-21 06:18 PM

Do you think that it would be useful to have some of your "smaller" charts available in-game as well, like this? :)


https://i.postimg.cc/sv8rkthX/SH5-Im...5-00-14-17.jpg

Alpheratz 02-14-21 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2730099)
Do you think that it would be useful to have some of your "smaller" charts available in-game as well, like this? :)


https://i.postimg.cc/sv8rkthX/SH5-Im...5-00-14-17.jpg

Yes, I think it is worth making such charts available directly in the game. If necessary, they can always be printed on paper.:yep:

vdr1981 02-15-21 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Alpheratz (Post 2730101)
Yes, I think it is worth making such charts available directly in the game. If necessary, they can always be printed on paper.:yep:


Great! :up:


Also, if you can, please compile one folder with tables and documentation which I should implement into real nav documentation for TWoS. I already created one but I'm concerned that I may mess up something and place outdated tables ect...


Please tell me which tables would be the most useful to be available in the game charts section as well. Right now I have 7 free slots for charts but that can be increased to 11 if necessary...



:salute:


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