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M. Sarsfield 01-09-08 03:11 PM

1MC Schematics???
 
Does anyone have or know where to find copies of schemtaics for the 1MC and alarm system? We know that we need to re-attach the wires in the main switch box (they were cut), but it would also be nice to know what circuit panels/fuse boxes that it runs through.

Donner 01-09-08 03:45 PM

I really don't know if this will help or not.

You can find the primary instruction training manuals for the fleet type submarine online at maritime.org. Here is the link to NavPers 16162 Submarine Electrical Installations on that site. http://www.maritime.org/fleetsub/elect/index.htm

Or you can purchase a CD of this manual (and others) in PDF form here...http://www.history-on-cdrom.com/id41.htm

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M. Sarsfield 01-09-08 04:40 PM

Yeah, we're familiar with that site/book. Chapter 16 is too general for what we're trying to figure out.

shoot-kill-win 01-09-08 05:49 PM

I know for sure that the blueprints for all the systems on the Batfish are at the Batfish museum, I recall seeing a 1mc blueprint the last time I looked through them in Nov. Just ask Rick where they are.

M. Sarsfield 01-09-08 06:03 PM

Cool. I'll ask him this weekend. I'm half tempted to bring my soldering gun and wire stripper with me and at least reconnect the cut wires.

shoot-kill-win 01-09-08 06:07 PM

Go ahead Rick wont mind as long as you ask him.

Bill Nichols 01-09-08 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoot-kill-win
I know for sure that the blueprints for all the systems on the Batfish are at the Batfish museum, I recall seeing a 1mc blueprint the last time I looked through them in Nov. Just ask Rick where they are.


I went through the Batfish (a self-guided tour) when I was in Muskogee once (don't ask me why I was there ;) ). While in the maneuvering room, I opened up one of the bench lockers out of curiosity and was surprised to find a thick stack of blueprints for the electrical system. :o I could have easily walked off with some souveniers; fortunately, I'm an honest fellow. :yep:

:ahoy:

M. Sarsfield 01-09-08 10:52 PM

I'll mention it to Rick (museum curator). Although, you have to get past the cashier with the blue prints, someone could easily toss them over the fence into the parking lot and retrieve them on the other side. Thanks, Bill. :)

shoot-kill-win 01-09-08 11:29 PM

Over the summer, Rick and I went through the Maneuvering room alot, and Rick and I even tried to get down in the motor room -underneath the maneuvering room- which involves moving the bench seats, and there were no blueprints around. For now I think all the Blueprints are in the office.
But it is good that you are checking with Rick.

M. Sarsfield 01-10-08 08:25 AM

In the pump room under the con we were opening storage cabinets to see what was left behind and there were random pump parts, but nothing to brag about. One of the pumps was partially cannibalized, but I was surprised to see most of the equipment still intact.

AVGWarhawk 01-10-08 11:42 AM

How is week to week happenings handled at the Batfish? Her papers and achrives are kept were? At the Torsk, all paperwork, old photos and achrives are kept under lock and key, forward battery.

Also, all members are part of a forum set up just for the Torsk. It is for general use and also to post how many man hours were spent for the week and what was done by each. This information is collected by one person via email. This information is logged and used later on down the road when we approach the city of Baltimore when we need cash. Basically it shows a general interest in keeping up with the Torsk. We offer up the total man hours spent for the year. It is good bargaining chip for things we need.


The small hallway between manuevering and the aft engineroom there should be a hatch to get down below maneuvering. Here you can access the motors that are attached to the props and also look inside the sight glass at the brushes for the motors. It is a tight fit! Wanna have some fun, try to squeeze between the diesels and the outer hull. Watch you head!!! This is the place were you can find some old artifacts also. Great additions to her history.

M. Sarsfield 01-10-08 12:05 PM

I was in the pump room and lower engine room (I forget whether fore or aft). I know which hatch that you speak of and I'll have to make it a point to look around down there. We're allowed to go just about anywhere as long as we're not a detriment to ourselves or the boat.

Our battery compartments have some stuff stored in them, but I was surprised at how big they are. I think you could hold an arena football game in there. :)

As for logging hours, Rick is working out those bugs. We're starting to keep track of how much money we raise for her restoration. They cut down a bunch of brush and trees around the memorial property so that she is a lot more visible to the highway traffic nearby. We're hoping that it attracts more attention and revenue this way.

As far as regular maintenace goes, I think it's only a few people that work on her on a regular basis. My hopeful attempt at restoring the 1MC system will be my first real maintenance activity. The question in my mind is how old is the equipment? She was decommissioned in 1969 and as much as I like original equipment, solid state electronics are a lot easier to work on/with. I'm guessing that it will be a 1950's or 60's box. The biggest concern is what condition the capacitors are in. Old capaictors tend to dry rot and crumble. This would require removing the circuit boards and soldering on new capacitors. The other trick is figuring out where the 1MC gets its power from and re-energizing those circuits. Do you know if it runs through the huge circuit breaker panel in the con near the helm or does it go to a small fuse box?

AVGWarhawk 01-10-08 12:26 PM

I will not be much help with the electrical things. I do not get into this area much. We have a few Electrican Mates aboard who do these things. I stay out of their way. I'm always afraid to touch these things and watch them fry. I can always inquire for you about it if you like. Give me a list of specific questions about the piece you are working on and it will inquire.

Bill Nichols 01-10-08 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Sarsfield
I'll mention it to Rick (museum curator). Although, you have to get past the cashier with the blue prints, someone could easily toss them over the fence into the parking lot and retrieve them on the other side. Thanks, Bill. :)


I should have mentioned, my story was from more than 10-years ago, and I did mention my find to the cashier. I'm not surprised that they would have been moved since then.

:sunny:

M. Sarsfield 01-10-08 01:13 PM

Quote:

I should have mentioned, my story was from more than 10-years ago, and I did mention my find to the cashier. I'm not surprised that they would have been moved since then.
Rick thinks that everything has been moved to a storage room, but he will double check and he appreciates the heads up.


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