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Hambone307 01-23-15 07:47 PM

Anti Aircraft Operations
 
I am curious as to people's preferences regarding enemy aircraft. Do you prefer to take your chances with a crash dive, or duke it out on the surface?

Also, does anyone have knowledge as to the real life effectiveness of anti aircraft fire from a fleet boat? I keep finding articles about Anti-Submarine tactics... :-?

merc4ulfate 01-23-15 09:00 PM

While the first casualty of the Japanese forces was an aircraft shot down by the Tautog during the raid on Pearl Harbor wisdom dictates that an aircraft flying at 200 mph should be avoided in a confrontation by a surface vessel traveling at best 20mph.

Dive and leave it alone. Anti-Air combat was required at times but with the advent of better radar submarines could dive well before the plane got there. An aircraft to a submarine is like a dirty partner:

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...d12n-3-web.jpgThey carry bombs and depth charges and all sorts of nasties.

Best avoid them.

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Crannogman 01-23-15 09:32 PM

It kinda depends on my mood and whether I'll need the ammo later. The other day I interposed myself between a flight of 20 Betties and our transport fleet. The Betties went crazy trying to get me, and half of the collided in mid-air; my crack gunner got another 5. The rest high-tailed it home after I had dodged all their torps. Well, all but one - somebody got me for 20% hull damage

Armistead 01-24-15 01:09 AM

depends on your mods, if playn stock you can survive a couple direct bomb hits, when in real life, that would be it for your sub. same with surface ships, one shell could easily be the end of your ship. a few mods give these results, so you don't mess with planes or gun battles with escorts on the surface....sure death.

late war you can get twin bofars and twin 20's and usually take out a plane, but the bofars work great for ships as well, so why waste it on a plane...

last duel I had with planes, I had 92% damage and was knew I couldn't dive, so tried to get home and had to fight a few, luckily I made it, seems with 98% damage.....

TorpX 01-24-15 02:00 AM

The Germans had to deal with that question. At first they tried mounting more guns on their decks, then sending the boats out in groups. It became apparent that while heavily armed boats might defend themselves against a single bomber, they could not stand up to a group of them. Eventually they concluded it was better to seek safety in deep water, to the greatest extent possible.

No submarine has sufficient deck space to allow for a really effective AA defense. They can't come close to what a Fletcher-class DD could bring to bear, nor do they have effective fire control for AA (think RADAR-directed guns here).


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