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iambecomelife 07-28-21 04:45 AM

Ghost Ship Returns 100 Years Later
 
...On video, at least. Meet the SS "Malmberget". This Swedish bulk carrier left Norway in 1913 with 10,000 tons of iron ore and was never seen again....until now. Oceanographers from the Institute of Marine Research in Norway were studying reefs when they stumbled on a wreck. Based on the ship's unique design features, and the letters "M A -" still visible on the stern, they are sure this is "Malmberget".

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoThNGicDe4

Interesting find; rather tragic for the 43 crew. In an even further tragic footnote, Malmberget's other sister ship Norrbotten went down with no survivors in 1915. I believe no U-Boats were operating off the USA at that time, so it was probably hull failure. This proves Bulk Carrier problems have been going on for over a century. I started reading about them as a kid because of the "Marine Electric" which sank in 1983 near where my family used to live....mom was pregnant with me and still remembers the storm (same day as one of her medical checkups). There were 3 survivors out of more than 30 men on that ship, because Marine Transport Lines was dishonest about maintenance.


I am sure everyone's heard of the "Edmund Fitzgerald" ... then there was the "Derbyshire", which is called Britain's "Edmund Fitzgerald" (no survivors from these huge ships). Even a new bulker like Malmberget can sink due to excess water content in cargo, or an explosion of certain minerals...of course when a bulker gets old there's also corrosion, sudden hull failure, etc etc.

Dozens of bulkers sink year after year, often with heavy loss of life. Because the seafarers tend to be poor third worlders, there is not much outcry. Unless bunker oil gets spilled. It makes me mad when news reporters go on and on about cute seals & birds being oiled in cases where 30+ men died....kind of like how my trucker dad must feel when people complain about traffic jams and ignore that a semi driver is killed in a wreck.. Anyway, rant off.

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https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?196103


https://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?196105

Jimbuna 07-28-21 06:23 AM

I/m unable to get the above link to open so I've added a working link below....No idea if they are of the same footage though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoThNGicDe4

iambecomelife 07-28-21 08:12 AM

Thank you! Yes, that is the correct video.

Eichhörnchen 07-28-21 12:31 PM

Very interesting, thanks for that :salute:

Kapitan 07-28-21 11:01 PM

The biggest issue with bulkers is that they have very large open non baffled cargo holds, which if you get water into naturally sinks it.

The other side to it is the loading and discharging which causes sagging in the hull which stresses the keel and over time weakens it, generally its why you don't tend to see many old bulkers (average age of the worlds fleet is about 11 years old)

Derbyshire was sunk mainly by weather, same as Edmund Fitzgerald, Marine Electric was a combination of weather and negligence in terms of maintenance


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