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Rambler241 08-01-15 09:16 AM

Zosimus opined:
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I believe that torpedoes should not be fired at ranges less than 300 meters. They have a minimum arming distance.
Indeed - the "safe arming" distance. It was possible for a torpedo to malfunction and "return home", or even for the fuse to detonate prematurely. Premature detonation happens sometimes in SH3, particularly for magnetic settings in rough weather, though generally at a safe distance from the tube. The practice at the time was to fit an arming device - a threaded screw attached to a locking pin. A small propeller on the nose was geared to wind the screw to slowly withdraw the locking pin and so arm the fuse.
http://www.uboataces.com/weapon-torpedo.shtml

However, bear in mind that the 300 metres is the distance the torpedo has to travel before the fuse is armed, not the range to target when it's fired. A torpedo fired at rather less than 300m at a fast retreating target might arm itself in time, whereas one fired at say 350 metres at a DD rushing straight towards your boat at speed may well not.

Zosimus 08-03-15 06:03 PM

AK3389. Convoy sighted. Outbound. 9 knots. Course... 230ish? I am directly in the convoy's path.

Cannot reload external torpedoes. Gale force winds. Heading 220 speed... 8 knots or so. One eel in the back. Hoping for the weather to change.

Zosimus 08-06-15 10:11 AM

April 4, 1943. Leaving Lorient for DO98. Patrol expected to take at least a month. We are equipped with the finest anti-air weapons available, skilled anti-aircraft officers, and a watch officer who is skilled in anti-air tactics.

I have also managed to get T3 pattern running torpedoes. I have two. I don't know how well they work, so this will be my chance to try them out.

May 1943 is right around the corner.

Zosimus 08-06-15 11:00 AM

Patrol aborted early. One was plane shot down. However, four men were killed. After two hours on the bottom in 110-meter water, we stopped the leaks, blew ballast, and returned to Lorient. Total patrol time... about 5 hours.

U-66 is kaput.
I am now commanding U-851 a new IXD2.

Rambler241 08-06-15 04:17 PM

One of my two current careers was started at the latest possible date in 1943, so I could get command of an IXC with a (relatively) experienced crew. On the last patrol out of Brest, we were attacked by so many large aircraft, in very unrealistic numbers, before reaching deep water on the way to the Caribbean, that I almost aborted the mission and gave up totally. Especially watching Sunderland FBs dive-bombing us, some climbing vertically after dropping bombs or DCs. A vertical Sunderland is an ex-Sunderland, whichever way the nose is pointing when it's flying vertically. The fuel and bomb loaded weight of a Sunderland was around 29 tonnes. I guess there's just one "flying model" in SH3, simply modified for aircraft speed.

After my gunners had accounted for a total of 50 large aircraft, in the first 250-odd km, probably more than Coastal Command had at any one time in the entire SW Approaches, I aborted and restarted from my standard "Outbound" save, where I've plotted the route to the target grid, avoiding aircraft hotspots like the Azores, and passing across likely convoy routes. Result - no aircraft attacks at all, though a few Sunderlands and Wellingtons were spotted some distance off, turning and flying away.

Wellington crews seem to be as blind as my sonar man is deaf and dumb - one even flew right over us in the early dusk - no reaction at all, despite it sprouting radar aerials like a hedgehog.

Kip336 08-06-15 05:02 PM

August 1940, U-22 (IX-B)

Departed Willemshaven on Early june, with a refuel in Spain. Tried going for Cape Town (South Africa) but due a fuel leak, BDU has ordered us to patrol around Lagos (*The port east of Takoradi, forgot its name, already closed SH3)

We saw a large merchant anchored about a kilometer out of the harbor, promptly sunk it.
Used 2x TII

BDU ordered us to Freetown next. Sighted a small merchant, about 50km west of Freetown. shot off one T1, hit about 1/3 from the bow causing the bow to lay deeper in the water. She remained afloat however. Due to bad weather, couldnt use the deck gun, but wasn't worth a torpedo. We gave chase for 7 hours before the weather calmed down enough for the deckgun. 9 shots below the waterline sunk her. The cargo remained afloat, used our AA to sink it.
Used; 1x T1, 9x 105mm, about 30 30mm and 80 20mm.

Remained submerged for about 5 hours, listening for any ships coming to aid, nothing. Headed towards Freetown on surface with 7 knots.

Kplt Malifozik, U-122

Fahnenbohn 08-07-15 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rambler241 (Post 2334350)
Wellington crews seem to be as blind as my sonar man is deaf and dumb - one even flew right over us in the early dusk - no reaction at all, despite it sprouting radar aerials like a hedgehog.

If an aircraft doesn't carry any bombs, it simply won't attack you. But if it is a fighter, it will dive and open fire on you with its mg guns ! Epic moments !!

VONHARRIS 08-07-15 06:40 AM

U-65
 
October 1939 , AM 52
Wind 15 m/sec , sea state : harsh
Traced and intercepted British small merchant
Fired 6 TIs against her
2 premature explosions spotted
2 explosions on target seen
2 unaccounted for.
Target sunk.

A total waste of expensive torpedoes for such a small target.

Update
Just fired my last 2 TIs at a medium merchant (6000 grt) under the same weather conditions. Both premature explosions. No internal torpedoes left. She will move on.

KingOfNothing22 08-09-15 06:09 AM

U-105 1st Patrol (Pt. 1)
 
01/09/1940
19:35 - Departed Lorient at 18:30, Escort ship has just left us. Current orders are to make way to grid BC62. Weather satisfactory - partial cloud cover with light fog. Sea 2. Light breeze, direction N.

04/09/1940
09:19 - Grid BF4812. We have sunk our first ship! A coastal freighter for 1869GRT. Had to use 3 torpedoes. First one fired from 800m missed after it passed under the target due to sea swell. Second and third torpedoes fired at a depth of 2m from 400m away. Lifeboat observed drifting E. Decided to continue on course without engaging with survivors.

05/09/1940
21:05 - BE6819. Received report of a large enemy convoy in BE6765 travelling in our direction. Moving to intercept despite poor conditions (sea 8 and strong gales).

06/09/1940
01:42 - Grid BE68. Sighted enemy convoy at around 22:30. Relayed information to BdU. Presumed spotted by enemy frigate at around 22:45 after it veered away from the convoy and moved towards us. Made several attack runs with depth charges, all astern of us. Moved under the convoy, escorts broke off attack. Let the convoy pass by and turned 180° after 30 minutes at silent speed. Surfaced and caught up with ships at the tail of the convoy before conducting 2 attacks from around 1,500m firing a total of 8 torpedoes. Of the first 4 fired, 3 exploded prematurely and the remaining torpedo missed. In the second attack 2 exploded prematurely, 1 missed and 1 hit a tramp steamer which quickly sank for 1958GRT. Escorts turned and began searching for us, we broke off immediately at 01:25. Lost visual contact at around 01:35. 11 torpedoes remaining, continuing on course to patrol grid.

Kip336 08-09-15 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KingOfNothing22 (Post 2335022)
[FONT="Courier New"]01/09/1940
19:35 - Departed Lorient at 18:30


That puts us in the same flotilla, roughly at the same time (I'm at JAN 1st 1941, just left on another patrol on DEC23

KingOfNothing22 08-09-15 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kip336 (Post 2335024)
That puts us in the same flotilla, roughly at the same time (I'm at JAN 1st 1941, just left on another patrol on DEC23

Good luck :Kaleun_Salute: I hope you have more luck with your eels than I've been having with mine!

Kip336 08-09-15 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KingOfNothing22 (Post 2335027)
Good luck :Kaleun_Salute: I hope you have more luck with your eels than I've been having with mine!

((Que https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLguQtArm8A ))
No luck with torpedos. 3 duds, 1 ran deep and 1 hit for 4000grt merchant. finished her with deck gun action

KingOfNothing22 08-09-15 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kip336 (Post 2335031)
((Que https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLguQtArm8A ))
No luck with torpedos. 3 duds, 1 ran deep and 1 hit for 4000grt merchant. finished her with deck gun action

Uneasy times, eh? I'm hoping my next encounter with a merchant goes more to plan than the last two! Not had much luck with this lousy weather, either...

Rambler241 08-09-15 04:22 PM

KingOfNothing22 wrote:
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Of the first 4 fired, 3 exploded prematurely and the remaining torpedo missed. In the second attack 2 exploded prematurely
Type I fish fired at fast speed will often detonate prematurely if using magnetic setting. At 1500m I'd use medium speed with magnetic.

KingOfNothing22 08-09-15 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambler241 (Post 2335193)
Type I fish fired at fast speed will often detonate prematurely if using magnetic setting. At 1500m I'd use medium speed with magnetic.

Thanks for the heads up Rambler I'll be sure to keep that in mind!

I didn't write down what speed I fired them at but if I remember correctly all but two of the torpedoes fired at the convoy were fired at medium speed (four of which detonated prematurely, with the other two missing) and the others were at slow speed, 1 of which also detonated very quickly after firing.

I don't tend to set them to fast as I like to attempt to get some distance between myself and a target in case of escorts (in the case of convoys), so I can't say whether I've had any premature detonations using them at fast speed.

Zosimus 08-10-15 08:41 AM

In 1939 and 1940 I used all T1s, and all impact. I never had any problems. I set for slow and 3 meters of depth.

Of course, it all depends on the mods you're using. I just use GWX without H.Sie or Stiebler. Some mods require special depth settings on torpedoes to prevent them from prematuring.

Now I just use slow everything, and 4 meters.

Kapt Z 08-10-15 11:56 PM

07MAY41

U558, type VIIC, 1st Flot. Kiel

Grid AL35

Large convoy heading-ESE, speed-7 knots

Torpedoed and sunk two tankers from convoy.

23,192 tons

Giebel, Herrman, Oblt.

KingOfNothing22 08-11-15 07:37 AM

U-105 1st Patrol (Pt. 2)
 
07/09/1940
21:03 - Weather has deteriorated further. Strong gales, heavy rain, sea 8. Visibility is nil. Made the decision to dive to save fuel.

08/09/1940
07:14 - Surfaced at 07:00. No change in weather. Will continue diving at night until weather improves to preserve fuel load.

11/09/1940
08:32 - Sighted destroyer sailing SSW - suspecting convoy in vicinity. Shadowing at long range. Weather is partially cloudy, sea 8, gales direction W. Heading 250°, speed 14kn.

08:45 - Determined destroyer is acting as an escort for a convoy. Attempting to move in closer to determine size and course.

09:04 - Currently have sight of 15 merchants and 1 escort, a C&D destroyer, sailing WSW at 7kn. Attempting to leapfrog the convoy and attack from directly in front of it.

12:14 - Have successfully leapfrogged the convoy. Commencing attack in spite of poor sea state.

15:53 - Conducted attack on convoy. Fired 4 torpedoes. 2 misses and 2 hits on a small merchant, sunk for 2396GRT. Escorts carried out sporadic depth charge attacks around us. Stopped after around 45 minutes without success. Continued moving W, lost sound contact at 15:00. Surfaced at 15:45 and continued to BC62, course 276°.

14/09/1940
16:25 - Grid BC6233. Patrol grid reached. Beginning ladder search pattern ending in BC6277. Orders are to remain in area for 72hrs. Weather has improved after 9 days. Partially cloudy, light fog. Light easterly winds.

16/09/1940
21:02 - BC6277. New orders received to proceed to CC56. Course 226°, speed 11kn. Weather is clear, light breeze. Sea 1.

20/09/1940
03:49 - Arrived at grid CC5633. Adopting a search pattern to cover patrol area. Weather is poor - heavy rain, poor visibility. Sea 4.

23/09/1940
01:33 - Grid CC6412. Received new orders for CF95. Weather unchanged.

02/10/1940
03:30 - Grid CF8597. Sighted 2 merchants travelling W - A coastal freighter and large merchant. Attempted to attack both head on from 1,000m with remaining 3 fore torpedoes. All missed. Dived to periscope depth and turned 90° to attack the large merchant with stern torpedoes. Scored 2 hits at 380m, sinking it for 10660GRT. Forced to let coastal freighter continue heading W. 2 stern torpedoes remaining. Currently unable to use deck gun due to poor sea state. Fuel now below 50%. Taken the decision to start return passage to Lorient.

08/10/1940
02:09 - BF61. Awaiting escort vessel outside Lorient.

06:20 - Docked at Lorient. Patrol officially ended:

4 ships sunk for 16,883GRT.
38 days spent at sea.
Received promotion to Oberleutnant zur See.

Karl-Heinz 08-12-15 07:04 PM

**I will be providing better accounts in the future - being a rookie, I didn't keep track of all my actions.**

11 SEP 1939 2015
Patrol Report
U-16 (Type IIA)
2nd Flotilla, Wilhelmshaven
Walter Frönlich, Oberleutnant z.S.

First war patrol commenced 25 AUG 1939, departing Wilhelmshaven at 1341
Ordered to grid AM18 for 24-hour patrol
Received BdU radio message to get to grid AM18 by 01 SEP 1939, while maintaining radio silence and avoiding any other ship contact.
Conducted diving, surface attack, submerged attack, defensive and damage control exercises during North Sea transit towards Orkney-Shetlands gap.
Crew responded well to constant drilling; teamwork became the theme for this patrol.

Received BdU radio message that British convoy would reach grid AM18 by about noon 03 SEP 1939. Made best speed to grid objective.
U-16 never reached grid AM18, as boat was west of the Hebrides when war with Great Britain was advised by BdU radio message.

03 SEP 1939 time unknown (daylight)
Intercepted merchant convoy consisting of five ships **types unknown - read, I forgot**
Enemy plane forced boat to submerge, costing time and interception quality
Launched three Type-I torpedoes at a range of about 4500m at chemical goods freighter - two torpedoes prematurely detonated, and one missed.
Continued interception of convoy, and fearing ridicule and court-martial back home, continued submerged to reload last two Type-I torpedoes.
At periscope depth, found distance to chemical goods freighter to be about 2500m - launched last two Type-I torpedoes, with one premature detonation and one striking target just aft of amidships.
Verified chemical freighter sunk.

03 SEP 1939 time unknown
Out of torpedoes, I was ordered to return to base by BdU. After continual enemy aerial and naval threats, reached dock at Wilhelmshaven on 11 SEP 1939 1800.

Patrol Results

Crew losses: 0
U-Boat damage: None
Torpedoes expended: Five Type-I torpedoes (three premature detonations, one miss, one hit)
Deck gun ammunition expended: None
Enemy ships sunk: One
Total tonnage: 1890 GRT
(1) "Maiden Creek" 1890 GRT (chemical goods freighter) Grid AM35 - 20 crew, 18 lost (mail/packages)


Promotions/Awards/Qualifications

Oberleutnant z.S. Frönlich awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class and U-Boat Front Clasp **which I realize is inaccurate.**
Bootsman (Torpedoman) Jörg Zander awarded U-Boat War Badge.
Bootsman (Watchman) Otto Grau earned Watchman qualification.

Aks 08-12-15 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl-Heinz (Post 2335927)
Oberleutnant z.S. Frönlich awarded Iron Cross 2nd Class and U-Boat Front Clasp **which I realize is inaccurate.**

Iron Cross 2nd Class? For 1 merchant 1890 GRT? Generous Doenitz.


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