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XenonSurf 04-09-20 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2661831)
Sure, but from some reason I'm not able to edit my old posts. Moderators?


Anyway, download link for install instructions is available on the main TWoS download page since long time ago...

Ah ok, so next time I will link any interested player to the download section.


Have a nice time!
Greetings,
:Kaleun_Cheers:XS

Tonci87 04-09-20 05:51 PM
I noticed something that is bothering me and I´m curious to know if that can be improved.

When Aircraft attack you, they immediately break off their attack as soon as you dive below the waves. They do not try to drop their bombs in the area where you have been last.

I think that is a shame and it makes aircraft much less dangerous. Also I do not think that any aircraft can be armed with depth charges, because they would never use them effectively.
It is a very different Experience in SH3 GWX, where aircraft are the biggest danger to you.

Id it possible to improve Aircraft AI, so that they drop their ordinance even if your sub is already below the waves?

vdr1981 04-10-20 10:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonci87 (Post 2661863)
I noticed something that is bothering me and I´m curious to know if that can be improved.

When Aircraft attack you, they immediately break off their attack as soon as you dive below the waves. They do not try to drop their bombs in the area where you have been last.

I think that is a shame and it makes aircraft much less dangerous. Also I do not think that any aircraft can be armed with depth charges, because they would never use them effectively.
It is a very different Experience in SH3 GWX, where aircraft are the biggest danger to you.

Id it possible to improve Aircraft AI, so that they drop their ordinance even if your sub is already below the waves?

Unfortunately nothing regarding airplanes AI can't be improved or at least I don't know how to do it. TDW's IRAI improves things to the some extent but still, airplanes AI is one of the weakest points of SH5 in my opinion as well...

Tonci87 04-10-20 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2662007)
Unfortunately nothing regarding airplanes AI can't be improved or at least I don't know how to do it. TDW's IRAI improves things to the some extent but still, airplanes AI is one of the weakest points of SH5 in my opinion as well...
Do you think it is possible to look at the SH3 GWX implementation and learn from that? Or does SH5 work in a very different way?

vdr1981 04-11-20 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Tonci87 (Post 2662062)
Do you think it is possible to look at the SH3 GWX implementation and learn from that? Or does SH5 work in a very different way?
I'm not 100% about this but I really doubt that would make any noticeable difference. The problem is that even default airplanes AI in SH3 and 4 is quite good and functional while in SH5 is completely broken.



Also , if you take a look into SH3/4 files you'll see that literally only few files control planes performances (airstrike.cfg ?) while in SH5 is completely different story due to scripts introduction...

Tonci87 04-11-20 07:22 AM
So the default AI is already missing too much functionality to significantly improve it. Shame. But then we just have to take it as it is.

By the way, in order to make aircraft a little bit more dangerous, I would like to enable the option that Carriers can launch Aircraft. I remember that it was advised to not do that. Why was that again? What could happen?

Tonci87 04-11-20 11:05 AM
A new video, this one shows how I managed to sink so much tonnage in my last patrol :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlatj5_jYLM

vdr1981 04-11-20 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonci87 (Post 2662298)
So the default AI is already missing too much functionality to significantly improve it. Shame. But then we just have to take it as it is.

By the way, in order to make aircraft a little bit more dangerous, I would like to enable the option that Carriers can launch Aircraft. I remember that it was advised to not do that. Why was that again? What could happen?

Aircraft carriers will spawn airplanes just like any other airbase regardless of mentioned patch. I'm not really sure what was TDW 's intention with those patches but they definitely don't do anything useful in the game. You can easily create test mission to confirm this.



From my testing I learned that those patches will only spawn airplanes on carrier's deck but the planes will instantly fall down to see, not really nice bug to see...

Tonci87 04-11-20 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2662378)
Aircraft carriers will spawn airplanes just like any other airbase regardless of mentioned patch. I'm not really sure what was TDW 's intention with those patches but they definitely don't do anything useful in the game. You can easily create test mission to confirm this.



From my testing I learned that those patches will only spawn airplanes on carrier's deck but the planes will instantly fall down to see, not really nice bug to see...
Oh, OK. Then I´ll leave the patch deactivated :)

Bilge_Rat 04-12-20 09:36 AM
After several years off, I reinstalled SH5 and the TWOS mod. I have to say I am very impressed. It is very easy to instal and has a nice mix of mods.

I only have one issue, the are numbers in the top left corner that look like a FPS counter. How do I turn that off? Ctrl+F8 does not work.

fitzcarraldo 04-12-20 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat (Post 2662581)
After several years off, I reinstalled SH5 and the TWOS mod. I have to say I am very impressed. It is very easy to instal and has a nice mix of mods.

I only have one issue, the are numbers in the top left corner that look like a FPS counter. How do I turn that off? Ctrl+8 does not work.
The keys for see FPS in game are Ctrl+F8.

But I think you have active the FPS counter in Uplay (?). Go to your Uplay settings and put it off.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

Bilge_Rat 04-13-20 05:25 AM
That was it, thanks.

vdr1981 04-13-20 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fitzcarraldo (Post 2662667)

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:
Hey Fitzcarraldo, I promised you before an optional mod which will roll back env changes introduced in v2.2.17, so here it is. Sorry for the delay friend. Happy hunting and and #Stayathomeandplaysilenthunter5withwolvesofsteelmod :).

http://www.mediafire.com/file/v9jr6z...files.rar/file

fitzcarraldo 04-13-20 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2662950)
Hey Fitzcarraldo, I promised you before an optional mod which will roll back env changes introduced in v2.2.17, so here it is. Sorry for the delay friend. Happy hunting and and #Stayathomeandplaysilenthunter5withwolvesofsteelmod :).

http://www.mediafire.com/file/v9jr6z...files.rar/file
Many thanks for the addon! you are very kind.

Best regards and #stayathomehuntingwithTWoS.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

Tonci87 04-14-20 06:20 PM
Another great patrol on the American East Coast

Tonci. Patrol #21. 5/3/1942
 
http://il2cg.il2sturmovik.net/KSDSer...ptains/404.jpg
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Patrol #21
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3/13/1942 5:09:50 PM Out on patrol from the base Lorient
3/28/1942 12:57:00 PM Destroyed North Carolina Battleship, 35000 tons, Long 60° 02' W, Lat 39° 38' N
3/30/1942 Objective achieved Resupply from U-132
3/31/1942 12:02:00 AM Destroyed Liberty Ship (War Supplies), 7171 tons, Long 64° 49' W, Lat 34° 24' N
4/2/1942 10:25:00 PM Destroyed Amphibious Group Command Ship, 7602 tons, Long 71° 30' W, Lat 40° 23' N
4/3/1942 Objective achieved Infiltrate a spy in the harbor southbound of Long Island
4/4/1942 3:30:00 AM Destroyed Small Oiler, 2822 tons, Long 72° 56' W, Lat 39° 01' N
4/4/1942 3:36:00 AM Destroyed Medium Old Split Freighter, 5243 tons, Long 72° 55' W, Lat 39° 02' N
4/4/1942 10:05:00 AM Destroyed T3 Tanker, 11338 tons, Long 73° 39' W, Lat 38° 28' N
4/4/1942 3:46:00 PM Destroyed Large Freighter 8200t, 8718 tons, Long 73° 25' W, Lat 38° 25' N
4/5/1942 8:52:00 PM Destroyed Hog Island Type A Freighter, 4243 tons, Long 73° 34' W, Lat 37° 40' N
4/10/1942 9:54:00 PM Destroyed Medium Composite Freighter, 4052 tons, Long 75° 07' W, Lat 35° 08' N
4/10/1942 11:35:00 PM Destroyed Coal Freighter 2900t, 3100 tons, Long 75° 08' W, Lat 35° 18' N
4/11/1942 3:15:00 PM Destroyed Parcel Freighter, 3059 tons, Long 75° 55' W, Lat 34° 28' N
5/3/1942 5:18:08 AM Completion of a patrol in the base Lorient

Sinking tonnage: 92,348
Merit: 4280
Raiting increased by 3
Patrol time: 51 days
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5/3/1942 The new rank is Kapitan zur see


I´m now also Ace of the month for May 1942 :D

Jokerman 04-15-20 04:09 AM
Hey all,

Hope everyone is safe and well.

Tonci87, I've recently been following your youtube videos ... thanks for the publishing .... ich habe das information uber der "4 bearings method" wirklich gut gefunden :yeah:

TWoS mod is excellent and thanks to the Mod Team for the work. Gratuity sent also.

Fair seas...

S!

Tonci87 04-16-20 05:30 PM
Hi VDR,

I just experienced something that should not happen.

The date is 08.06.1942 and I was just attacked by three Beaufort Torpedo bombers in BE77. That is the Mid Atlantic.
I had a look into the Mission file for OP Drumbeat, and there are two Beaufort Patrols coming from the Azores.
But the Azores shouldn´t be available as a base until October 1943.

Could you please delete them for the next patch?

Thank you.

vdr1981 04-17-20 05:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonci87 (Post 2663775)
Hi VDR,

I just experienced something that should not happen.

The date is 08.06.1942 and I was just attacked by three Beaufort Torpedo bombers in BE77. That is the Mid Atlantic.
I had a look into the Mission file for OP Drumbeat, and there are two Beaufort Patrols coming from the Azores.
But the Azores shouldn´t be available as a base until October 1943.

Could you please delete them for the next patch?

Thank you.

That's strange because Azores airbase has game entry date set to 12th Dec 1943 and doesn't exist in OD campaign. :hmmm: Last night I also came close to the Azores and there was no airplane activity. Considering that this airbase have an elite skill, it's impossible that game wouldn't send at least few planes on close range like that.



Could it be that planes you saw were spawned from some aircraft carrier?
Could you upload the gamesave you've mentioned?

Tonci87 04-17-20 05:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vdr1981 (Post 2663851)
That's strange because Azores airbase has game entry date set to 12th Dec 1943 and doesn't exist in OD campaign. :hmmm: Last night I also came close to the Azores and there was no airplane activity. Considering that this airbase have an elite skill, it's impossible that game wouldn't send at least few planes on close range like that.



Could it be that planes you saw were spawned from some aircraft carrier?
Could you upload the gamesave you've mentioned?
No no, if you open Operation_Drumbeat.pj in the missioneditor, and start a simulation from for example 06/1942, you will see that there are two groups just spawning at the Azores. I don´t think the Airbase has anything to do with it.

vdr1981 04-17-20 05:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonci87 (Post 2663852)
No no, if you open Operation_Drumbeat.pj in the missioneditor, and start a simulation from for example 06/1942, you will see that there are two groups just spawning at the Azores. I don´t think the Airbase has anything to do with it.
Yes, I'm aware of that but I always thought that those planes aren't actually visible in the game. I may have to double check that...:hmmm: Like you said, maybe its better to remove/delete Lajes airbase from early campaigns all together, just to be on the safe side...:hmmm:


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