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Rhodes 02-11-22 06:39 AM

New desktop advice
 
As the tittle says, need advice for a new desktop PC.

It is not that mine, even with almost 10 years (upgraded a few years ago) does not do for my use and the games that I play - SH3, 4 and U-boat. But the mods (newer ones) and the latter do push the machine.

And importantly, I want silence. or a very quite PC. My is still from an noisy era.
I though of a gaming one, besides games, i do tend to do some photo editing sometimes and something to last as long as my current one.

Any thoughts of PC already assemble? Or it is still prefer to buy and diy?



My PC is mostly ASUS pieces (Board, GPU), First generation intel I5 (do not know how are the current AMDs).

blackswan40 02-11-22 06:48 AM

Hi Rhodes check this post out Sir


If you can build your own pc i would go down that road so you build the PC with the parts your want or if not go to a local computer shop and get them to build it for you i would stay away from prebuilt systems due to the fact they will cut corners somewhere on the componants



https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...41&postcount=3

Catfish 02-11-22 04:00 PM

Well i would also like your opinions on a new desktop, if you build it yourself. I'm not entirely out of touch but which mainboard, which HDD, which graphic card and so on in 2022. For gaming of course; such a PC will do all else (like InDesign or Solidworks) easily then.

Right now i would go for a Gigabyte board, 32 Gb of Ram , a 500 Gb SDD for OS and IL2, SH3/5, and a big HDD.
Not sure on VR and so on :hmmm:

blackswan40 02-11-22 04:22 PM

fist things first do your spade work pick your parts for your new PC build then look at reviews of all your parts on youtube to seperate the wheat from the chaff so to speak then find the parts at the best price a extra days searching can save you $$$ plenty moolar bigtime

re desktops what ever your budget is eg $2000-$2500 then spend $1000-$1250 on your GPU then $300-$400 on M/B if you get a M/B with four dimm slots you can get 2x16 ram dimms then later when the times right you can get two more 16gig dimms 1TB ssd/nvme drive that plugs into M/B $200-$250 $200-$250 on 32 gig of ram $175 $200 on psu
$180 $225 water cooler

$200 on a good case with plentry of airflow

if you can aford $2000/$2500 dont buy all the other stuff first then only spend $200 on a GPU as an after thought the GPU should at least a third or a half of your total build cost

Also all the componants should compliment each other so there is no bottleneck on your build
no good having a nvidia 3090 then only having 8 gig of ram and 250gig hd


as my Radion Tiachi RX 6800 TX tiachi 16GIG Gpu £1150
if i would have put a Nvidia 3050 Gpu in my build i could have saved a £1000 buying a cheaper M/B ram case cooler ect and got the same performance of me putting that nvidia 3050 gpu in my build

Rhodes 02-12-22 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackswan40 (Post 2792848)
Hi Rhodes check this post out Sir


If you can build your own pc i would go down that road so you build the PC with the parts your want or if not go to a local computer shop and get them to build it for you i would stay away from prebuilt systems due to the fact they will cut corners somewhere on the componants



https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...41&postcount=3


Thank you.

Yes, I have been researching a bit and I notice that. "Oh, this rig seems nice, new generation cpu and etc. The m/b is one of the chepeast..." Or a fiine board, previous gen cpu, but then a ancient gpu, or almost no ram, etc.

Commander Wallace 02-12-22 09:38 AM

I think Blackswan and Catfish gave sound advice. I have seen computers that were factory setups and run well on games. I think for gamers like you, Blackswan and others that are more discriminating, a custom build is probably the better way to go. You can probably get a better deal if you purchase your components from the same place and bundle higher end components like the motherboard, video card, etc...

As Blackswan said, airflow is important and serious gamers have had water cooling in their rigs as well. I would only add that if you go with a custom build, make sure the board supports newer processors and lots of memory.

I remember that others, I'm thinking Gary ( GT182 ) from Subsim, built or bought something that was an AMD Ryzen 8 core 16 thread CPU board. Today, the Ryzen is a 16 core 32 thread.

https://www.amazon.com/amd-16-core-p...core+processor

I don't think that has much application on games as programed games can't use multiple core as far as I know. Games can only use 1 signal path and in some cases, the CPU's that run many core like the Ryzen don't perform as well in games as a CPU with a lower core count but run at a faster speed. The Ryzen's may be better as I have never seen them run or read any reviews on them.

The other thing to consider is availability. With the current bottlenecks with shipping and trucking shortages and strikes fueling inflation, prices are being driven up.

Good luck with everything. Let us know how it works out as I'm sure many others are contemplating the same build and would like to know what you chose and how it worked out.

stoppro 02-18-22 03:17 PM

I just finished building this one in my sig.No problems getting anything.

Rhodes 03-24-22 06:15 AM

Here is mine new PC:

Intel Core i7-12700KF 12-Core 2.7GHz c/ Turbo 5.0GHz 25MB Skt1700
WATER COOLER CPU ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360
Motherboard ATX Asus ROG Strix B660-F Gaming WiFi
MEMÓRIA RAM ADATA 2x 16GB DDR5 4800
NC-3ARGBX2 Jonsbo Cooler NC-3 2x ARGB-RAM Silver
SNVS/1000G Disco SSD M.2 2280 Kingston NV1 1TB 3D
DISCO HDD SEAGATE BARRACUDA 1TB 7200RPM 3.5''
EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 KO Ultra Gaming 6GB GDDR6
Extended-ATX Cooler Master MasterBox MB520 ARGB Black
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G5 650W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular


Windows 11... I did ask for the 10 pro, but do to the new CPUs, to get full use of them, it had to be the eleven. So far, i am not unlinking the OS.

Very quite pc, so I am glad and if it last half of my old one (10 years now) I am glad.

blackswan40 03-24-22 06:26 AM

Hi Rhodes very nice PC Sir :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Rhodes 03-24-22 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackswan40 (Post 2800208)
Hi Rhodes very nice PC Sir :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

:Kaleun_Salute: Thank you Sir! :D

Commander Wallace 03-24-22 05:45 PM

Very nice computer Rhodes. It's way better than mine but then again, My computer has caveman drawings on it. Near as I can tell, Neanderthal period.


:D

mapuc 03-24-22 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace (Post 2800328)
Very nice computer Rhodes. It's way better than mine but then again, My computer has caveman drawings on it. Near as I can tell, Neanderthal period.


:D

With the speed of the development of computers, a computer bought today will be classified as Neanderthal after 6 month or so.

Markus

Commander Wallace 03-26-22 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2800332)
With the speed of the development of computers, a computer bought today will be classified as Neanderthal after 6 month or so.

Markus


No, it will be classified as outdated but, you are right. My computers are from the Neanderthal period. I wanted to use voice activation on them but the program hasn't been written yet that understands grunts. But, hope springs eternal. :haha:

Catfish 03-30-22 06:01 AM

^ lol yep my pc is now 11 years old, with 3.8 Ghz clock and 16 Gb of ram, it was a rocket back then. Now with Win 10 it is still decent (ahem), but condensators and such usually break after some time, so looking for a new one.
Good gaming PCs have a horrendous price now :o

mapuc 03-30-22 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2801153)
^ lol yep my pc is now 11 years old, with 3.8 Ghz clock and 16 Gb of ram, it was a rocket back then. Now with Win 10 it is still decent (ahem), but condensators and such usually break after some time, so looking for a new one.
Good gaming PCs have a horrendous price now :o

Catfish if you can do it yourself or you know someone with a huge skills in building a computer from scratch.

Then I recommend you build your own using no-name stuff. It will be cheaper than buying a new fully equip with all the stuff needed.

Markus


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