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skwasjer 04-17-08 11:20 AM

DeepIron, can you have a look if it provides a similar function to save the UVW-data into a single (binary) file? Or even if it loads .UVW files? (doubt it, I think it's just yet another proprietary Max-only format)

It's alot easier to just import the UV-data directly into the actual model in Max, than having to copy it from model A to model B.

Anyway, I'm really interested to hear if you can finally start importing some of your models into the game :up:

DeepIron 04-17-08 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by skwasjer
DeepIron, can you have a look if it provides a similar function to save the UVW-data into a single (binary) file? Or even if it loads .UVW files? (doubt it, I think it's just yet another proprietary Max-only format)

I believe your correct on that. However, W3D allows one to "break apart" a model into it's constituent objects and then UV map each one separately, a somewhat lengthy process. W3D is written in Erlang and has a very extensible plugin interface so I think I'll investigate that avenue. I might be able to automate the process somewhat... or possibly a script that will read .uvw files directly for importing...

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It's alot easier to just import the UV-data directly into the actual model in Max, than having to copy it from model A to model B.
No doubt about that. I'm wondering how GMAX might be employed, possibly through a Maxscript... hmmm...:hmm:

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Anyway, I'm really interested to hear if you can finally start importing some of your models into the game :up:
You bet. I'll be getting started here soon and keep you in the loop... :up:

skwasjer 04-17-08 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
First feedback : it rocks :p
I didn't try to import some "all new" models yet because I suck at this, I don't even know how to do some lightmaping or stuff. Anyway, I exported a few game models (interiors, nothing fancy), remapped some bits, resized another bit, rotated another, and everything works perfect. For this kind of task I don't even have to bother about the load/save UV channels with 3ds, that's perfect.
I'll post some type II interior pics in a few minutes :)

Thanks, that's good to hear :up:

skwasjer 04-17-08 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron
I believe your correct on that. However, W3D allows one to "break apart" a model into it's constituent objects and then UV map each one separately, a somewhat lengthy process. W3D is written in Erlang and has a very extensible plugin interface so I think I'll investigate that avenue. I might be able to automate the process somewhat... or possibly a script that will read .uvw files directly for importing...

The UVW format is pretty simple, it took me one hour to debug it. I you decide to script it, let me know and I'll write the spec down. This will probably take me more time than it took me to debug it :rotfl:

M. Sarsfield 04-17-08 01:22 PM

It sounds like the GWX guys are starting to look at the SH4 code and develop importing tools. Are they aware of your handiwork, skwasjer?

skwasjer 04-17-08 02:15 PM

Sure they are. Ref and privateer already use it, and also have assisted in a couple of features, most notably the animations part :up:

M. Sarsfield 04-17-08 02:31 PM

Cool. I consider what you've done to be a huge break through and I don't even mod - but I read a lot of the modding posts.

Snaptrap 04-17-08 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skwasjer
:rotfl: That cracked me up guys...


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Originally Posted by Snaptrap
Is it possible to get this editor as a rar or zip instead of an installer. I'm not a fan of betaware and I prefer to use it with all it's contents in one folder.

No.

That's ok, I did it myself. No more installer.

skwasjer 04-17-08 07:35 PM

:damn:
Don't come to me when it screws up your game, mods or just doesn't run. You are taking some required steps away, both during installation and uninstallation, not to mention when I have updates available you are going to run into problems. Hell, if it does run, you shouldn't trust that it runs as 'designed'. Stop screwing with the installer, I made it for a reason... :nope:

UBOAT234 04-18-08 08:32 AM

:sunny::sunny::sunny: THANKS SKW :sunny::sunny::sunny:

A very good work :up:

Many many thanks!

skwasjer 04-18-08 08:47 AM

Hi UBOAT234, let me know if you run into problems. It's still a 'first release', so make sure to back up your work. Have fun!

skwasjer 04-18-08 10:57 AM

Yes please :up:

Some basic questions:
- Did you export it from the .dat using S3D as well?
- Has it been previously imported with Pack3D?

Give me the relevant chunk index as well so I know which one to look at...


[edit] I've already seen two other issues, so I'll update the importer/exporter and provide an update somewhere tonight.

skwasjer 04-18-08 11:27 AM

Thanks, I'm on it! :smug:

[edit] Ok, internally the texture coordinates were not optimized for the main obj-file, only for subsequent channels and this caused that error. Your test.obj file contains 14018 texture coordinates but is not optimized (duplicates removed), this can be reduced to 1889. If this was the original model (from Ubi), then they haven't optimized it real good ;) If this was imported with Pack3D earlier, maybe it was responsible for it.

I will let the optimization feature run on the main model as well in next release. I just did that locally and I got the same number of texcoords (1889). In the mean time, you can try if your 3D studio can remove the duplicates.

keltos01 04-18-08 03:34 PM

token
 
i tried to replace the 9dx2 3d model with the sen toku one, it didn't work and I got this screen :
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1202/tokenvv1.jpg
[URL=http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=501&i=tokenvv1.jpg][IMG]http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1202

skwasjer 04-18-08 04:06 PM

Yes, I'm aware of this, but thanks for the heads up... :up:

The current release contains 3 bugs, which I'm fixing as we speak ;)


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