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Indeed time factors and paint availability played a big role. Many ships were sunk before they could be repainted, and there was no colour omogenity among the ones which eventually were repainted. You were right on that, but you had also speculated that old ships might have been not worth the extra paint, and this is the point that I and kapuhy disagreed on :) Quote:
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Here are some - in German - regualations about interiors of ships and submarine.
From the General Regulations No. 31, March 1940 edition, regulation for applying paint to ships and vehicles of the Kriegsmarine D. Paints for submarines: http://www.u-boote-online.de/dieboot...aerz_1940.html From the General Regulations No. 31, July 1944 edition, regulation for the application of paint on ships and vehicles of the Kriegsmarine D. Paints for submarines: http://www.u-boote-online.de/dieboot...juli_1944.html https://i.postimg.cc/xTKMXH1P/German...-jpg-thumb.png https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...TlgB0NSKkCz8EL https://www.shipcamouflage.com/images/kriegsmarine3.jpg |
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BTW: do you happen to know if there was any special colour regulation which applied to German merchant ships non-commissioned in the KriegsMarine? I know most of them were either seized in enemy ports, confiscated in neutral ports or blocked in friendly ports, but a number of them saw active service either as coastal shipping or as blockade runners, and I wonder which colours might be more realistic for them. |
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The list has 4 more extra ships (all British) : - CITY OF BARCELONA - KING EDWARD - STANLAKE - TORTUGUERO There are also different spellings (drawing/database) : - BORGHOLM / BORNHOLM - PRINCESS MARIA PIA / PRINSES MARIA-PIA - BANGKALIKAT / MANGKALIHAT - LANGLETARN / LANGLEETARN Who's right, who's wrong ? Quote:
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Here is my analysis of the commodore's (Hugh Hext Rogers) drawing of convoy OB.330 ships (assuming that colors are accurate) :
1. Ships with their original colors : hulls are black (sometimes dark grey), and upper structures are white, light yellow, buff or brown, funnels have different colors (orange, blue, black). MANAQUI is plain dark grey (maybe a repaint ?). Many of them are British (so "rules" are not very respected...). 2. Ships with hull (probably) repainted in grey : most of ships are tankers, it's a light grey paint. 3. Ships with superstructures (probably) repainted in grey : the hull remains very dark (black). HEINA superstructures are perhaps actually white... :hmmm: 4. Ships in plain grey (probably a war repaint) : note that there are different shades of grey from ship to ship... |
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As for LOD problem, only workarounds for it that I know of are: 1) disable/delete LOD file forcing game to render main model at all distances. 2) set LOD switching distance to far enough and make color variations similar enough that player would not notice color switch at LOD distance. As for second question - I did a test with one of my coasters, created a clone and set it to use another texture, then put both ships (original and clone) together in one scene. Both showed up with the same texture set. This might warrant another test though since I did it just once and might simply have made some error in configuration. |
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I am preparing a similar analysis for the other convoy whose sketch we have available (SL.60). I will get it finished tomorrow. Quote:
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I created a proxy clone unit with its own texture files, but sharing gr2 model with original, and put it right next to original. Results: - if original doesn't have texture specified in its roster file but clone does, both ships assume clone's texture - if both ships have texture specified in roster files, they both assume original's texture - it neither has texture specified in roester file, same as above - both assume original's texture. So whatever is in roster file takes priority over texture specified in gr2 file, but anyway game seems to only check once per gr2 file and settle for one texture for all units using this model. Which is a bummer. Now, someone maybe should check this in campaign as well, since in single missions there's some weird things going with textures anyway (like ships having winter decals even if scenario takes place in June near equator). |
Convoy SL.38 July 1940
https://i.imgur.com/Hal3oWo.png?1 Thomas Holt / J. Holt & Co, Liverpool.................................................. .. https://i.imgur.com/xy5oV7p.png
https://i.imgur.com/Kh7j5e6.png Nela / Royal Mail Lines, London.................................................. .......... https://i.imgur.com/4yzD1iy.png https://i.imgur.com/OSDmIOK.png Silvercedar / Silver Line, London.................................................. ........ https://i.imgur.com/u658ANp.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/tMSLwvm.gif?1 https://i.imgur.com/3715uj1.png Clan Cameron / The Clan Line Steamers, Glasgow................................... https://i.imgur.com/sWAftod.png https://i.imgur.com/BK8JHvB.png Cefn-y-Bryn / Cook Shipping Co. - Ambrose, Davies & Matthews, London... ? https://i.imgur.com/0z51yPC.png Pontypridd / Pontypridd Steamship Co. - Morel Ltd, London...................... https://i.imgur.com/zuoiaaq.png https://i.imgur.com/TV0Cxie.png Nebraska / Royal Mail Lines, London.................................................. ... https://i.imgur.com/4yzD1iy.png https://i.imgur.com/st12veC.png Harmatris / Willis Steamship Co - J. & C. Harrison, London....................... https://i.imgur.com/leknwgV.png https://i.imgur.com/XzJwbj4.png Telesfora De Larrinaga / Larrinaga Steamship Co, Liverpool...................... https://i.imgur.com/mI8EX1r.png https://i.imgur.com/mzR1ztJ.png British Genius / British Tanker Co, London............................................. https://i.imgur.com/ctHBGmG.png https://i.imgur.com/Uf5UHOi.png City of Shanghai / Ellerman's Hall Line (Sun Shipping Co.), Liverpool......... https://i.imgur.com/xgeS6Ft.png https://i.imgur.com/FB0cJkd.png Algenib / N.V Van Nievelt, Goudriaan & Co. Stoomvaart Mij, Rotterdam...... https://i.imgur.com/9sV4ste.png https://i.imgur.com/aFzznQ7.png Birchbank / Bank Line - Andrew Weir & Co, London................................. https://i.imgur.com/mLb84D5.png https://i.imgur.com/NWl4HON.png Pearlmoor / Moor Line - Runciman Shipping Co, Newcastle-upon-Tyne........ https://i.imgur.com/2b1Fr7v.png https://i.imgur.com/kKa0KMS.png Tribesman / Charente Steamship Co - T. & J. Harrison, Liverpool............... https://i.imgur.com/igNb8sc.png |
Convoy SL.38 July 1940 (continued)
https://i.imgur.com/WeNVsHa.png Haughton Hall / Charles G. Dunn Shipping Co, Liverpool.......................... https://i.imgur.com/EuXGBPr.png
https://i.imgur.com/mj72du6.png Thalatta / Wilh. Wilhelmsen, Tønsberg .................................................. https://i.imgur.com/ywy1k5g.png https://i.imgur.com/GaFmcHm.png Dagrun / A/S Ocean - John P. Pedersen & Son, Oslo................................ https://i.imgur.com/AyFYExn.png https://i.imgur.com/M1h3JNW.png City of Guildford / Ellerman's Hall Line (Sun Shipping Co.), Liverpool......... https://i.imgur.com/xgeS6Ft.png https://i.imgur.com/eyxCXfB.png Dumfries / B.J. Sutherland & Co, Newcastle-upon-Tyne............................ https://i.imgur.com/Ve7Z1hP.png https://i.imgur.com/fy02NEF.png Suecia / Rederi A/B Nordstjernan - A.A. Johnson, Stockholm.................... https://i.imgur.com/HVuy75f.png https://i.imgur.com/FFc067X.png Randfontein / Vereenigde Nederlansche Scheepvaart Mij, Den Haag.......... https://i.imgur.com/CXYtyXI.png https://i.imgur.com/DQ1sBxL.png Halizones / British & S. American St. Nav. Co. - Houston Line, Liverpool..... https://i.imgur.com/TCAUZfH.png https://i.imgur.com/vOhgtyt.png Congonian / United Africa Co, London.................................................. . ? https://i.imgur.com/dgsK418.png Cape Race / Lyle Shipping Co, Glasgow.................................................. https://i.imgur.com/yTKOILD.png https://i.imgur.com/XP4Wc0c.png Statira / Chellew Steamship Management Co - F.C. Perman, London.......... https://i.imgur.com/GqHZYzq.png https://i.imgur.com/p5GRP09.png Laplace / Lamport & Holt Line, Liverpool................................................ https://i.imgur.com/5aQaF6H.png https://i.imgur.com/4Kw2Q4b.png Serbino / Ellerman's Hall Line (Sun Shipping Co.), Liverpool..................... https://i.imgur.com/xgeS6Ft.png https://i.imgur.com/i3dVaew.png Ramon de Larrinaga / Larrinaga Steamship Co, Liverpool......................... https://i.imgur.com/mI8EX1r.png https://i.imgur.com/iQS0rnL.png Lima / Rederi A/B Nordstjernan - A.A. Johnson, Stockholm....................... https://i.imgur.com/HVuy75f.png |
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