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Skybird 10-07-23 06:44 AM

Hamas launches war on Israel
 
Netanjahu has declared a state of war.


Reservists are being called up in huge numbers, observers count that as a sign of that they have the situatin not under control.


Hamas started with a barrage of "hundres of rockets". Hamas commandos have attacked into Israel on the ground, killed many civilians in the streets on sight, and hijacked "a huge number".


The Israeli air force is in full combat engagement.


It seems the Israelis this time got caught on the wrong foot. I guess they will regain control, but I also think this is a new war, not just an "operation".

Moonlight 10-07-23 07:08 AM

^Yep, that will be the headline in 2099 as well. :O:

Skybird 10-07-23 08:01 AM

Observers in Israel describe the way Hamas strikes and tactics it uses as right the worst case scenario the army always had feared and warned of. The situation gets compared to the debakle of Jom Kippur 1973. Sounds all pretty serious. And the hostages - many of them already. Wasn't there this Israeli soldier who was held hostage for 5 years and then got freed - for over 1000 terrorists in Israeli prisons?

mapuc 10-07-23 08:30 AM

What I'm wondering about is-What can we expect from Iran, Syria and Lebanon(Hizbollah)?

Hopefully they stay calm.

Markus

Jimbuna 10-07-23 08:46 AM

My money is on Israel every time.

Skybird 10-07-23 08:48 AM

2200 rockets fired so far, says IDF speaker. At least 40 dead, 780 wounded. A "huge number" (speaker) of hostages taken.


Sooner or later it will be Israel'S move. It will be anything but shy.

Skybird 10-07-23 09:01 AM

After air strikes, 200 dead in Gaza, says CNN.

Jimbuna 10-07-23 09:04 AM

Easier to simply put up a live feed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBRguEoWiQ

Skybird 10-07-23 09:08 AM

Analysis of "why now?" To the author it is no surprise.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Otto Harkaman 10-07-23 09:14 AM

https://youtu.be/Lb3v8M8dzic?si=Bv390GoEA1EcTbD6
https://youtu.be/VxyByN1Z39c?si=TNaGYG05CE6Q76T9

em2nought 10-07-23 09:21 AM

Now I see why we have to log in for forum viewing. :D

Just another bad result of our stolen election. Where's Biden's money for the Israelis? The squad will want to send money to hamas.

Best of luck to Israel.

Jimbuna 10-07-23 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 2887251)
Now I see why we have to log in for forum viewing. :D

Just another bad result of our stolen election. Where's Biden's money for the Israelis? The squad will want to send money to hamas.

Best of luck to Israel.

Amen

vanjast 10-07-23 12:13 PM

Nothing but a 'media war'.:03:

The prediction, or should I say, the planned sequence of events is :-

Second last: The take-down of Israel.
Last: The take-down of MSM.

Which makes sense, as you still need the BS'ing MSM to feed normie with what they want to believe. Then once all targets are achieved (excuse the pun).. the shock on Normie's faces when they find out that it's all been nothing but a Truman Show for th elast 10 years or so.

Pharkit.. it's going to be something to behold
I've already booked my ringside seats.
:up::D

Rockstar 10-07-23 12:40 PM

Quote:

1. Massive Israeli intelligence failure. The last time Israel was blind sided this badly was the '73 war. Though we should note Israel came out on top in that conflict 50 years ago.

2. The scope of this infiltration attack indicates a huge level of planning and preparation spanning months or years. Which underscores point #1.

3. The level of brutality already involved; confirmed executions of Israeli soldiers and civilians, parading the bodies of slain IDF personnel (including 1 female soldier), indiscriminate killing of Israeli civilians, etc will help set the tone for what follows.

4. Israeli declaration of war by the PM gives some indication of what we can expect from Israel by way of response. Also indicates the seriousness with which the government regards this attack/invasion. As does the IDF moving to a war footing and immediately recalling reserves.

5. Expect a significant degree of rally around the flag following this. Internal disputes will be put on the back burner for the time being. This is good news for Bibi.

6. The Israeli left's political influence will likely take a serious beating given their long standing conciliatory (by comparison) stance towards the Palestinians. Again, good news for the current center-right governing coalition.

7. Given the widespread support for the Palestinians being voiced by various Arab governments in the region - the progress of the Abraham Accords has suffered significant damage. How much remains to be seen.

8. I expect a significant Israeli response. Whatever it looks like, it will open with the air campaign we're already seeing the beginnings of. I currently regard future ground operations into Gaza by the IDF as highly likely.

9. While Iran supports numerous proxies & militias in the region, including Hamas & Hezbollah, and has openly praised this attack, it's not yet clear how involved Tehran is prepared to be. Some of their official rhetoric has been bellicose. What Hezbollah chooses to do in over the next few days or weeks may provide insight.

10. Which way Hezbollah jumps will have a major impact. Their involvement would create a two front problem for Israel and bring a significant number of additional enemy forces into the fight.

11. Several Arab nations, including Egypt, have made what could be construed as threats against Israel if the IDF were to launch punitive operations against Gaza in ways they deem disproportionate. Whether this is merely rhetoric or a genuine warning remains to be seen. From some nations, like Egypt, it's a threat Israel must take seriously.
hat tip: Patrick Fox

mapuc 10-07-23 12:59 PM

^ This was my first thought when I heard about this massive attack on Israel, what about Iran, Syria and Hezbollah.
Egypt, Iraq, Saudi-Arabia was not in my mind.

Markus


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