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Onkel Neal 06-02-22 12:01 PM

Mass Shooting thread
 
I was gonna label this "US Mass Shooting thread" but in the rare instance that some other unfortunate country shares in this epidemic of radio wave madness, I'll leave that open. But remember, this isn't a competition. :06:


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/u...-hospital.html

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A man who underwent back surgery last month stormed a Tulsa, Okla., medical building on Wednesday and killed four people, including the doctor who performed the surgery, with two guns he had purchased in recent days, the authorities said. His weapons included an AR-15-style rifle he bought just hours before the killings.

Chief Wendell Franklin of the Tulsa police said officers arrived at the medical office building on the campus of Saint Francis Hospital just before 5 p.m., within minutes of the gunfire starting, and rushed toward the site of the shooting. Chief Franklin said they found four victims, including two doctors. The gunman, who the chief said fatally shot himself, had been carrying a letter saying he blamed his surgeon for continuing back pain and intended to kill him and anyone who got in the way.

The killings in Oklahoma were the latest in a series of mass shootings that have rattled the country in recent weeks. Eight days before the Tulsa attack, 19 students and two teachers were killed in an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas. Earlier in May, 10 people were killed in a racist attack at a supermarket in Buffalo. Those were just two of hundreds of mass shootings — defined as shootings in which four or more people are killed or injured — that have been recorded in the United States in 2022.

Aktungbby 06-02-22 12:19 PM

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defined as shootings in which four or more people are killed or injured — that have been recorded in the United States in 2022.
Well then that would include the three ladies killed just up the road at the Yountville veterans Home.(2018) One of them was pregnant.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yountville_shooting
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A stand-off started at around 10:30 am when a gunman, later identified as Albert Wong, a 36-year-old U.S. Army veteran of the War in Afghanistan, entered the facility during a going away party.[7] The first 911 call of the incident was received around 10:20 am, and by 10:22 am the dispatcher had named Wong as the perpetrator and that he was armed with a semi-automatic weapon and large quantities of ammunition. Wong initially released veterans and other staff members, holding only Jennifer Gonzales Shushereba, a psychologist, Jennifer Golick and Christine Lobber, the clinical and executive directors of Pathway Home respectively.
Napa County deputies were some of the first to respond to the scene.At about 10 minutes after the initial 911 call[8] Wong exchanged gunfire with Napa County Sheriff's Department Senior Deputy Steve Lombardi and then retreated into The Pathway Home building. After the shootout there was no further contact with Wong or any of the hostages, although three hostage-negotiation teams were on site. At around 6:00 pm, after negotiators from several agencies failed to contact him, California Highway Patrol officers entered the room and found everyone in it shot to death. His cell phone was later discovered in his parked car.
Wong was found dead of a self-inflicted shotgun wound in the second-floor room where he had killed the three female staffers.[11] The Napa County Sheriff's Coroner determined that Shushereba was 26 weeks pregnant at the time of the incident and that her "unborn baby died due to lack of oxygenated blood caused by her mother's death."State Senator Bill Dodd reported that it was reasonable to believe that the three hostages were killed during or shortly after the initial exchange of gunfire with officers.
:hmmm:

Ostfriese 06-02-22 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2811891)
I was gonna label this "US Mass Shooting thread" but in the rare instance that some other unfortunate country shares in this epidemic of radio wave madness, I'll leave that open. But remember, this isn't a competition. :06:


A rare instance indeed. You want an example? Switzerland, a nation with a heavily armed population for European standards (about 2.5 million guns among a population of about 9 million) has had five mass shootings...




... in the past 110 years.

Aktungbby 06-02-22 12:30 PM

2011
 
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When the police arrived at the scene, they were met by survivors begging the officers to throw away their weapons, as they were afraid that the men in uniforms would again open fire on them.
During the attack, 69 people were killed, and of the 517 survivors, 66 were wounded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks

Onkel Neal 06-03-22 07:22 AM

2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.

Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.

Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.

Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.

Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.

Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.

March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.

March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.

March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.

April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.

April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.

April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.

April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.

May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.

May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.

May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.

May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.

June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.

Ostfriese 06-05-22 12:16 PM

At least 3 dead, 11 injured in shooting in Philadelphia (June 5th)



https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/u...-shooting.html

Jimbuna 06-05-22 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2812070)
2022, so far
Jan. 19, Baltimore: A man who worked for a gun violence reduction program was killed in an East Baltimore neighborhood, along with two others. A fourth person was injured.

Jan. 23, Milwaukee: Five men and a woman were found shot to death at a Park West neighborhood home. The police believe the attack targeted specific people.

Jan. 23, Inglewood, Calif.: The same day, a shooting at a birthday party killed four people, including two sisters, and wounded a fifth. The shooting was gang-related, the mayor said.

Jan. 29, St. Louis: A shooting near an intersection killed three young men and wounded a fourth. Police said they had no suspects.

Feb. 5, Corsicana and Frost, Texas: A 41-year-old man murdered his mother, his stepfather, his sons and the son of his ex-girlfriend in an overnight shooting. The man later fatally shot himself.

Feb. 28, Sacramento: A man shot dead his three daughters and their chaperone at a church during a court-approved visit. The children’s mother had a restraining order against the shooter, who killed himself.

March 12, Baltimore: A shooting in Northwest Baltimore killed three men in a car and wounded a fourth.

March 19, Fayetteville, N.C.: A Saturday night shootout in a hotel parking lot killed three people and wounded another three. The shooting may have been linked to a fight between motorcycle gangs.

March 19, Norfolk, Va.: Hours later, an argument outside a bar escalated into a shooting that killed three young bystanders. One of the victims was a 25-year-old newspaper reporter whose editor called her to cover the shooting, not realizing she had been killed.

April 3, Sacramento: At least five shooters fired more than 100 rounds a block from the State Capitol, killing six people — three men and three women — and wounding 12. The police described the shooting as gang-related.

April 20, Duluth, Minn.: A 29-year-old man who said he suffered from mental illness killed his aunt, uncle, two young cousins and their dog in their sleep. He later killed himself.

April 21, Mountain View, Ark.: A man killed his parents, another woman and her son at two homes half a mile apart in a rural community, the police say.

April 27, Biloxi, Miss.: A 32-year-old man killed the owner of the Broadway Inn Express motel and two employees in an argument over money. He fled to a neighboring town and fatally shot a fourth person. Police later found the gunman dead, barricaded inside a convenience store.

May 8, Clarkston, Ga.: Three people were shot to death and three others were wounded at a suburban Atlanta condo complex on a Sunday night.

May 14, Buffalo: An 18-year-old avowed white supremacist killed 10 people and wounded three more with an assault-style weapon in a live-streamed attack at a supermarket.

May 24, Uvalde, Texas: An 18-year-old gunman killed 19 students and two teachers at Robb Elementary School.

May 27, Stanwood, Mich.: A 51-year-old man allegedly killed his wife and her three young children at a home in Mecosta County before shooting himself, police said. The man remains in critical condition.

June 1, Tulsa, Okla.: A gunman killed his back surgeon, another doctor, a receptionist and a visitor at a medical building. He then killed himself.

That list makes for shocking reading Neal.

Onkel Neal 06-05-22 06:02 PM

Yeah, something is wrong with people.

Jimbuna 06-06-22 07:55 AM

Far too many in my estimation.

mapuc 06-06-22 08:54 AM

I'm asking myself why does these mass shooting happen mostly in USA.

Something is wrong with people..No something is wrong with their attitude towards weapons and life.

Markus

Onkel Neal 06-06-22 08:56 AM

We had plenty of weapons 50 years ago when I was a kid. People just did not behave this way in such large numbers then.

August 06-06-22 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2812599)
We had plenty of weapons 50 years ago when I was a kid. People just did not behave this way in such large numbers then.

Exactly.

Another thing I would like to know is where this kid got the scratch for about 10 grand in firearms and ammo. Those rifles he bought were top of the line models and ammo ain't cheap these days, even in Texas. How does an 18 year old from a dirt poor family come up with that kind of green?

Onkel Neal 06-06-22 06:17 PM

Yeah, exactly. How did he get that kind of money?

I guess he passed the background check, so that did nothing. Appears a lot of these crazies passed the background checks and purchased their weapons legally, yet I keep hearing we need "universal background checks". What gives?

August 06-06-22 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2812702)
Yeah, exactly. How did he get that kind of money?

I guess he passed the background check, so that did nothing. Appears a lot of these crazies passed the background checks and purchased their weapons legally, yet I keep hearing we need "universal background checks". What gives?


I think the true purpose of a ubc is to create a firearms registry. One would think so as to make it easier to come after them when they decide to outlaw them completely.

Rockstar 06-06-22 07:41 PM

One of the reasons I suggest raising the purchase age to 21 is that it's my understanding juvenile criminal records are sealed and I don't think show up on background checks no matter how comprehensive they are.

August 06-07-22 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2812719)
One of the reasons I suggest raising the purchase age to 21 is that it's my understanding juvenile criminal records are sealed and I don't think show up on background checks no matter how comprehensive they are.


But a persons juvenile criminal records would still be sealed whether the applicant is 18 or 21 so I don't see your point.

Rockstar 06-07-22 08:21 AM

True, a juvenile criminal history would remain sealed regardless of age. But in my world :) Since they are sealed I figure a background check at 21 ought to reveal something of whats been going on over the last three years in that persons life. Especially if they haven't changed their ways.

Gorpet 06-10-22 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2812517)
Yeah, something is wrong with people.

No the Folks who are really in control of this planet. Just need to release another virus, Only this time it will be 70/present death rate. Ya got monkey pox now give them time and they will get it right.

Gorpet 06-10-22 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2812599)
We had plenty of weapons 50 years ago when I was a kid. People just did not behave this way in such large numbers then.

Neal 50 yrs ago. In high school, Here in central florida we brought our 30.30 lever action hunting rifles to school they were in those racks in the back windows of our truck's.Or laying in the back floorboards of our car's.We were out at 2:30 pm and on our way.To our hunting stands or blinds. And i can tell you in 1974 when i was 16 yrs old nobody thought about shooting any of our fellow students or teachers for any reason. We were 6 years past the Indochina war and a lot of us lost fathers and uncle's, brothers and cousins.

I think it's a unique dynamic that people behave this way today. I will tell you this. I want my family and those that believe in a future for our and their families we must take whatever measures it takes. The best Political minds that have been elected have brought the world to this point. And they have brought nothing but War and misery.

The world's Politicians have shown us they haven't a clue.They they could not run a Donut shop on their own and not have it go out of business.

Gorpet 06-11-22 01:14 AM

The time for Politicians is over.
 
Do the people of this planet really need a Politician ?

It looks like the used car salesman figured out how to get off the lot.Go for the local vote, Go for the county vote, Go for the state vote and get to Washington here in America.I'm sure you can see the relation in your own country. Do we really need a Politician? Or would you rather have the business owners the people you buy your groceries and the products that your own country produces in charge?
And another thing when was the last time in your memory your country and it's leaders that you elected are showing the amount of your GNP. And a break down of where that money has been spent and how much has your country for your collective efforts received. And how will you as a citizen ever know if you could live better?

I will say this every single person in your tribe must contribute.It's not what your country can do for you. But what can you do for the country that you want to call home. And if you drop those standards, well you get war and misery. And this is why we have war and misery today.It's called Politician they and their families of course will never have to do without. Will they?


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