Thoe's with the high intellect, live on their own plane of existence. ELYSIUM.

Please , Continue who the hell is this this Gorpet . any way? Well he was a tank driver in Harry Turtledove's World at War Series. Some where back in 1999 .It did not turn out to good for Gorpet but i'm still here. And if i would have known capitols was shouting.I wouldn't have used them. so there ya go just another piece of info you didn't know. End transmission. Have a good weekend guy's

This guy - the murderer in LV, not this newbie here - more and more gives me the impression of having been a classical psychopath, maybe by inheritance, if one could say that.

So many theories, but obvious a nut. I do agree he fired off some shots or the possibility of it before Jason got into the second song and he went into the bump auto mode...sounds like single shots and the crowd does seem to be leaving in a panic right before Jason goes into the second song... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfNbcStlWEU

The video is interesting, but the analysis seems flawed; the crowd is seen starting to move away from the stage area several seconds before the alleged muzzle flashes, and since light travels faster than sound, it would be reasonable to presume the flashes would be seen before the gun sounds arrived; also, the weapons used, from the published accounts, appear to have had flash suppressors. The absence of any further "flashes" from the indicated area in the video is also telling...

The local radio news station here in LA aired an eyewitness interview the night of the shooting with another musician who was at the scene in the VIP area and he was asked about and commented on the reports of muzzle flashes from the area indicated; according to him, he had noted a sort of 'strobe' light of some kind visible from the location on nights previous to the shooting and posited the 'strobe' may have been mistaken by some as muzzle flashes; he also said he and others were not able to see any other flashes that would have indicate active shooting...

All this would seem to indicate the video, while interesting, is not definitive...





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When all of this went down I was wondering what took so long for the response team of swat to arrive on the scene. Then the Sheriff came up with a time line that indicated they knew about the shooter from a security guard checking a door on his floor that the shooter shot.

They said the shooter fired 200 rounds at the door hitting the security guard in the leg and that he then turned a small hand gun on himself and thereby the security guard was a hero, but now not only did the security guard not stop the shooter ... the security guard surprised the shooter before he had even fired one shot. The shooter was still in the process of breaking the window with a special tool to be able to fire out of the window.

Now the time line is all messed up and I have to wonder is it really a mistake or is it a cover up to hide the fact that the hotel security and the LV police and the LV sheriff and the quickly put together swat team should have have acted sooner? They knew which floor it was on due to the unarmed security guard calling in that he had been shot.

What took so long (10 minutes of shooting) and then an hour and a half later they break in, plus we still don't know why and may never know why the shooter stopped shooting with 1,700 rounds of ammunition still left on the floor in clips.

On top of all of this news the FBI now says that they knew the time line the NV sheriff gave was flawed. Right back to waiting three days (in this case a week) for the truth. :oops:

I think the discovery of the wireless camera on the room service cart gave them pause, as well as a possible degree of uncertainty of how many shooters there may have actually been in the room, the possibility of explosive or other booby traps, and the possible concern for and need to evacuate any other innocent occupants who may have been at risk; all of this may have played into any possible delays; going in blind is not an ideal situation...





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